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Old 01-19-2004, 04:13 PM
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Hey guys,

Here's the deal, I need a little bit of help with a decision.

I have 3 torque wrenches. 1/2" Craftsman, which is 0-250lbs I think. I use it for lugs, suspension parts.

3/8" Pittsburgh from Harbor Freight. You know, the $15 ones. More minor stuff, brakes, header bolts and such

1/4" Pittsburgh also from HF. Interior stuff, EGR bolt, etc. Also $15

The thing is, my ******* POS Craftsman has broken TWICE. They are $65 and they do NOT warranty them. I had to buy another one because when I broke the first, I was in the middle of a project. Now my 2nd one has broken. 2 over the course of 3 years. The wacked thing is, I use it maybe....10-20 times a year TOPS.

Right now, I'm trying to decide whether I splurge, get a $300 snap-on (which seems like an awful lot when you consider how little I use them), a similarly priced Husky (60-70$ I think), only difference is they appear to be lifetime warranty from home depot, or finally, a $10 Pittsburgh Harbor Freight one. Who cares if the thing breaks, it's $10. I could have bought 13 of them by now if I hadn't bought Craftsman junk. If they broke every year and a half that's about 20 years worth.

Any ideas? Any experience with Husky? If they really will replace it, no questions asked, then I will probably go with them. Do you have to have a receipt and stuff or do you just bring it in?

It really annoys me that my 3-4 year old $15 Pittsburgs still work great. And I've used them way more often than my Craftsman. They might not be the most accurate thing (I wouldn't use them on engine parts for example), but they do the job.

And yes, I do treat my torque wrenches right - at least I think I do. I always unwind them to 0 everytime I'm done with them. Never drop em, always stored till I need em. Never use them as a breaker bar (though this 2nd broken craftsman just became an expensive breaker bar).

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I would get a plain ol' fashion't beam type wrench, or a dial-indicator
type. The clickers seem to be pretty unreliable. I have all three and
the clicker after only casual use is pretty far off cal. The only good
thing about the clickers is you don't have to be in-position to get
indication, but a bogus indication is no good either....

I have pulled my Craftsman 250# beam type to full pegged with no
ill effect. You can recalibrate it with a pair of pliers if you manage
to overdo it. Bending steel with your bare hands, Mr. Kent?

At least if you have one of the more robust ones, you can save the
clicker type for when you really need it (which is, how often?).
A pawnshop beam-type in a name brand ought to set you back
20 bucks or less, and Chinese at the Harbor Freight about the
same.
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Get the Husky from Home Depot (made by SK Tools.. I think) or a Kobalt from Lowes (made by Snap-On). Definately positively without a doubt stay away from Harbor Freight when it comes to torque wrenches.

The beam type of torque wrenches are bigger then the click type so you may not be able to use them in all the places you can use the click type (like the back header bolts.. )
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Get the Snap-on, you only get what you pay for. I got my 3/8" in 1974 and my 1/2" in 1978 both have worked flawlessly all these years. I had them checked for calibration several times over the years and each time they were right on the money . Some things are much to important to trust to cheap tools.
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I was using MOBE's clicker Craftsman and it didn't "click" and I broke off my thermo bolt in the water pump housing.
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Think I'm gonna buy the Husky since I can bring it back if it breaks. And I'll get the HF one for $10 just as a backup, if the Husky breaks at a bad time.

I don't use torque wrenches enough to justify the cost of a snap-on.

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Originally Posted by sssuch
Get the Snap-on, you only get what you pay for. I got my 3/8" in 1974 and my 1/2" in 1978 both have worked flawlessly all these years. I had them checked for calibration several times over the years and each time they were right on the money . Some things are much to important to trust to cheap tools.
Where did you get it calibrated?
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I have a 1/2" Mac TQ Wrench and it kicks ***! How'd you break yours?
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Originally Posted by Brains
Where did you get it calibrated?
any Snap-on dealer will send it in for you.Just grab your ankles and don't forget to grease up.
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Originally Posted by Brads454
I have a 1/2" Mac TQ Wrench and it kicks ***! How'd you break yours?
The first one would just spin no matter what. It would just keep ratcheting, it wouldn't 'lock' so that you could put force on it. Know what I mean? Free-wheeling so to speak.

2nd one just cliks if you put any amount of pressure on something. Doesn't matter what you set it to. Just clicks right away.

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Snap On all the way. We use Torque wrenches all day long so we send send our wrenches out a few times a year to Team Torque to get them re-calabrated. We have a torque analyzer at work to check calabration. We use Proto Wrenches (cause we have to for some reason) but if it was my choice I would by only snap-on and the piece of mind that comes with that brand. If I were you and used them sparingly go with a MAC wrench good quality and are not too expensive. ratchiting Torque wrenches need to re-calabrated more often than a standard would need. They are more prone to break. We leave our wrenches at around 100 or lesss when not in use. puting it at zero isnt always the best thing for these wrenches. The springs are made to be loaded. Thats what we are always told to do with our wrenches. Hope this helps ya.
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Just out of cruiosty, when not in use do you leave tension on the torque wrench? My craftsman is 4 years old with daily usage and is about 1 ftlb off from a buddys new snap on.
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I have a Craftsman torque wrench that has served me well, and I keep it stored at the maximum setting that the instructions say is allowed when not in use (25lbs, I think).

However, I borrow a friend's top-of-the-line Snap On torque wrench when I'm doing critical stuff like head bolts...
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I'll tell you one not to get - don't get the craftsman one with the "window" over the indicator. That thing is a POS. In any kind of serious use the window gets fogged up and the grip starts sliding all over the place and you can't see the indicator. I'm going to have to cut my grip off and just tape it up because at the moment its worthless. The other craftsman wrenches aren't bad. As for snap on - I use those at work and we have to calibrate them a lot. For personal use they might be allright though.
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Originally Posted by WFC
Snap On all the way. We use Torque wrenches all day long so we send send our wrenches out a few times a year to Team Torque to get them re-calabrated. We have a torque analyzer at work to check calabration. We use Proto Wrenches (cause we have to for some reason) but if it was my choice I would by only snap-on and the piece of mind that comes with that brand. If I were you and used them sparingly go with a MAC wrench good quality and are not too expensive. ratchiting Torque wrenches need to re-calabrated more often than a standard would need. They are more prone to break. We leave our wrenches at around 100 or lesss when not in use. puting it at zero isnt always the best thing for these wrenches. The springs are made to be loaded. Thats what we are always told to do with our wrenches. Hope this helps ya.

Proto is a Snap On brand

Never used a Proto torque wrench so I don't know how they compare, but all of the Proto tools I've used when I worked in manufacturing were VERY nice quality.
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In my opinion Proto and Snap-On Branded TQ wrenches are by and far the best.

I personally will never again use a Husky TQ wrech due to the awful accuracy of the units I have personally handled.Also,ALOT of their tools are made in shitty facilities in Asia.

I've never had a problem with my Craftsman TQ wrecnhes beam or click type.

Don't forget a TQ wrench is a preceision instrument and should be treated as such. Always return it to 0 when done and do not mishandle it. If utmost accuracy is important have it calibrated yearly.
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Originally Posted by Pete2k_Z28
Proto is a Snap On brand

Never used a Proto torque wrench so I don't know how they compare, but all of the Proto tools I've used when I worked in manufacturing were VERY nice quality.



I thought Proto was Manufactured by Stanley.

http://www.stanleyproto.com/default....&PAGE=HOME.HTM

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Pete2k_Z28,
Thank's I did'nt know that. Now I see why we use them. I thought they were an industrial brand that wasnt well known.
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Originally Posted by PSU_Engineer
I thought Proto was Manufactured by Stanley.

http://www.stanleyproto.com/default....&PAGE=HOME.HTM

Tony
Yep, you are correct. Why the hell was I thinking Proto was a Snap On brand??? Mabey somebody else told me that once? I knew they were a division of a big company, guess I mixed it up. Must have had something to do with posting at 12:30 in the morning

I still stand by my other statement though, Proto tools are VERY nice quality although I've never used their TQ wrenches.

Edit: Although looking at Snap On's site (under "other Snap On sites), it lists Blackhawk as a Snap On company. Yet, under Stanley's sites, it lists Blackhawk as a division of Proto..... although that's Blackhawk Collision Repair, and the Stanley Blackhawk is hand tools... wonder if that's just coincidance? The insignias are different but who the hell knows??? Ok now I'm confused.....


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