Google Ads?
Brains made the comment about a global list of the sponsors. I for onehave hated the alpha numererical lookup system that is currently in place I might have go work through 5-6 pages to find a sponsor when I know there name just looking for a direct link. The current system is pathetic. IB owns Vbulliten so having the best software versions, tech support and and easy to use site should be a no brainer.(pun intended)
Last the google banners is against every principle and non sponser issue that the admins have parroted for years. It's a complete hipocrisey
Last the google banners is against every principle and non sponser issue that the admins have parroted for years. It's a complete hipocrisey
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red83: IB doesn't ban anyone, that's up to our staff. If IB started banning people without a good reason, I'd just lock 'em out 
I'd probably get fired, but you guys would kick in a few bucks to help pay my bills, right? 
8a8mfh: That is way messed up -- and a big one on the list. That would definitely **** me off (but I use Firefox so I'm good
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Chris: Quit being a know-it-all :p
reject: I understand what you mean, but please -- be constructive without being condescending, please.
Adam98Z: I think I like that idea as well, but keeping the tower of sponsor banners fit in the available height of the page so it doesn't run on for 232 feet below the last post. I really want to figure out some cool way to organize the list of sponsors as well, where people can get a nice "global" look at them.
I'd probably get fired, but you guys would kick in a few bucks to help pay my bills, right? 8a8mfh: That is way messed up -- and a big one on the list. That would definitely **** me off (but I use Firefox so I'm good
)Chris: Quit being a know-it-all :p
reject: I understand what you mean, but please -- be constructive without being condescending, please.
Adam98Z: I think I like that idea as well, but keeping the tower of sponsor banners fit in the available height of the page so it doesn't run on for 232 feet below the last post. I really want to figure out some cool way to organize the list of sponsors as well, where people can get a nice "global" look at them.
what i was saying is the staff is asking everyone to relax, but it its hard to relax with the tension of the staff banning people for speaking there minds about whats going on. you are the first staff member that has calmly answered anybodys questions to my knowledge (long thread). so that is why everybody is in panic mode!
just a thought, but what about organizing them per forum on the side. meaning sixspeedsinc/M6 sponsors in the MT section and performabuilt/yank/vig etc. in the AT section, then compstar/rotating assembly sponsors in the internal LSx forum, UMI/Strano/BMR/etc in the suspension/handling section, and have the general all parts here places like WS6store/thunderrracing, etc on the main page. itll make room for the google adds on the bottom so the page wont be stretched. although having specific sponsors in the sections only wont be as cool as the old display.
yea, thats what i was thinking. with thoes sponsors, they could be in all sections or on the main page because of the vast majority of parts that could fit all sections.
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Regardless, the vendors have been hurt by this move and even though I and probably close to 99% of the members don't know all the details on their side of the issue, some reparation, not necessarily financial reimbursement should be due.
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i understand that ib doesnt ban anybody. i know that is up to the staff.
what i was saying is the staff is asking everyone to relax, but it its hard to relax with the tension of the staff banning people for speaking there minds about whats going on. you are the first staff member that has calmly answered anybodys questions to my knowledge (long thread). so that is why everybody is in panic mode!
what i was saying is the staff is asking everyone to relax, but it its hard to relax with the tension of the staff banning people for speaking there minds about whats going on. you are the first staff member that has calmly answered anybodys questions to my knowledge (long thread). so that is why everybody is in panic mode!
I will say the responses are getting much better. Several members have offered some great suggestions and I think they will definitely be taken into consideration. Keep it up!
all i can say is if the site doesnt turn around soon, and be up to par as how it used to be, a LOT less people will visit this website.. i know their trying to make changes.. but im just saying....
when i open this site and click on a thread it sounds like im looking at a **** site with all the pop up blockers *clicking* away.
when i open this site and click on a thread it sounds like im looking at a **** site with all the pop up blockers *clicking* away.
I think instead of asking us, the forum members, what we want with the sponsor ads.... it should be up to the sponsors on what they want. They pay for the ad space, let them have an overwhelming say on how their money is spent.
For me personally, I liked the old way. Perhaps it was a PITA for the forum maintenance guys, but it was easy for us to use, and every sponsor had a fair shake at exposure everytime you went into a new thread or hit Refresh.
I don't like the Google Ads, either. IMHO, they don't belong here. Hell, there's a sticky in this very sub-forum that says non-paying vendors couldn't/shouldn't make a profit here. If I were a paying sponsor, that alone would **** me off.
I mean... this is worst case scenario, of course. But what if popular vendors like Texas-Speed, Speed Inc, Thunder Racing, etc decided to pull chocks and leave LS1tech? What then? Will a mortgage refinancing company that advertises through Google pick up the slack?
Something to think about...
For me personally, I liked the old way. Perhaps it was a PITA for the forum maintenance guys, but it was easy for us to use, and every sponsor had a fair shake at exposure everytime you went into a new thread or hit Refresh.
I don't like the Google Ads, either. IMHO, they don't belong here. Hell, there's a sticky in this very sub-forum that says non-paying vendors couldn't/shouldn't make a profit here. If I were a paying sponsor, that alone would **** me off.
I mean... this is worst case scenario, of course. But what if popular vendors like Texas-Speed, Speed Inc, Thunder Racing, etc decided to pull chocks and leave LS1tech? What then? Will a mortgage refinancing company that advertises through Google pick up the slack?
Something to think about...
I was going to multi-quote and answer each reply, but --- damn... you guys are seeing the vision There's already "some" stuff in the new ad system to do exactly what you guys are talking about. This new system has the ability to "target" your ads to only the areas you are interested in, stuff like that. We're a bit early in the game obviously, but it's awesome we're thinking along the same lines
The click thing has been escalated up yet another level (I just got an email about it) to include not only us, but will go all the way to doubleclick themselves if necessary. This one WILL be fixed, one way or another.
There's already "some" stuff in the new ad system to do exactly what you guys are talking about. This new system has the ability to "target" your ads to only the areas you are interested in, stuff like that. We're a bit early in the game obviously, but it's awesome we're thinking along the same lines The click thing has been escalated up yet another level (I just got an email about it) to include not only us, but will go all the way to doubleclick themselves if necessary. This one WILL be fixed, one way or another.
I never thought I would see my favorite site turn into googletech.com. Sad.
Anyway, I posted a suggestion for the sponsors on this thread back in November:
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...8909&highlight=
Anyway, I posted a suggestion for the sponsors on this thread back in November:
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...8909&highlight=
Brains, i know ur on our side and im glad to see u seem to be actively involved in resolving this huge issue. i just don't have much faith in IB after all the other forums they have ruined.
im not a programmer, but would it be possible to have the sponsor list variable lenght and have it match the length of post on a page? an also maybe have the ability to search by reigon? even if they are not all on the front page at the same time, 20 per page or something is better than 5 and a huge *** google crap.
what about putting the google ads at the bottom of the page instead of the prime ad space for the very well paying sponsors?
One of my MAJOR ISSUES is this doubleclick spyware crap. i understand they are owned by google now, but doubleclick is completely unacceptable IMO. especially having the paying sponsor links as doubleclick bullshit also.
im not a programmer, but would it be possible to have the sponsor list variable lenght and have it match the length of post on a page? an also maybe have the ability to search by reigon? even if they are not all on the front page at the same time, 20 per page or something is better than 5 and a huge *** google crap.
what about putting the google ads at the bottom of the page instead of the prime ad space for the very well paying sponsors?
One of my MAJOR ISSUES is this doubleclick spyware crap. i understand they are owned by google now, but doubleclick is completely unacceptable IMO. especially having the paying sponsor links as doubleclick bullshit also.
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why not put a paying vendor ad not a google ad in each thread you open in and put it between posts? that would be a start.......
hell im not a vendor, but i am a business owner and when my advertising dollars go out. i monitor it very closely
hell im not a vendor, but i am a business owner and when my advertising dollars go out. i monitor it very closely
I have to agree. I think the Google ads are unfair and a slap in the face to the sponsors of this board. However, I can understand IB's reasons for wanting to add them to the site. I do think IB needs to work closely with the sponsors of this site to create an effective way of keeping the Google ads while offering an appropriate amount of space for the paying sponsors. )
Im not a very big poster here, but I have been around here for almost 2 years. This site was what convinced me to go w/ a TA and has answered every single question Ive had with it over the years, so I want to see it back to the old way as much as everyone else. That being said, I realize that IB owns the site now so the final call comes down to them and I doubt theyre gonna can the google adds.
Brains- You said that you wanted some suggestions on how to make the site better instead of jsut complaints, so heres my idea. For starters I am glad that the sponsor list isnt 300ft long down the side of the page. Im not sure if I can explain this to well, but here it goes. I think that if you were able to scroll through the sponsor adds instead of having a static list it would work a lot better. Maybe a list of 20 or so showing at a time and you can just roll your mouse over an up or down arrow at the top or bottom of that list to make it scroll. Some type of order to the sponsors (Alphabetical maybe?) would also help out a lot in finding the one you want.
As for the google adds, if we HAVE to have them I could live with one on the side column below the sponsor links. As a side note I think its only fair to the sponsors that they get a discount on the sponsorship fee due to the google adds.
Thats just my .02
Brains- You said that you wanted some suggestions on how to make the site better instead of jsut complaints, so heres my idea. For starters I am glad that the sponsor list isnt 300ft long down the side of the page. Im not sure if I can explain this to well, but here it goes. I think that if you were able to scroll through the sponsor adds instead of having a static list it would work a lot better. Maybe a list of 20 or so showing at a time and you can just roll your mouse over an up or down arrow at the top or bottom of that list to make it scroll. Some type of order to the sponsors (Alphabetical maybe?) would also help out a lot in finding the one you want.
As for the google adds, if we HAVE to have them I could live with one on the side column below the sponsor links. As a side note I think its only fair to the sponsors that they get a discount on the sponsorship fee due to the google adds.
Thats just my .02
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