Got pulled over for tint and cop checked the engine
09-11-2011, 11:17 PM
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probable cause. try again
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Probable_cause
http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/Fourth_amendment
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Probable_cause
http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/Fourth_amendment
09-12-2011, 10:52 AM
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probable cause. try again
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Probable_cause
http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/Fourth_amendment
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Probable_cause
http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/Fourth_amendment
they can pretty much say anything. you can get pulled over if the cop says it looked like one of your plate lights was out (had this happen and both plate lights were perfect/bright).
as for popping the hood, they could say your car sounded modified. i had a cop tell me he saw a "blue flame" coming out of one of my old cars (which was completely stock except for suspension).
pretty much whatever it is they say gave them a reason to suspect there was some sort of illegal modification is good enough to make you the bad guy if you don't pop the hood.
our emission laws are pretty tight. if i was the type of cop who liked to pull people over and pop the hood, i'm sure i could fabricate a reason to pull over a law abiding 75 year old lady in a new prius and make her pop the hood. i suppose i'd probably impound her car and arrest her for dui since she'd probably be on medications that say she shouldn't be driving too... gotta serve and protect the public.
09-12-2011, 11:45 AM
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09-12-2011, 12:46 PM
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yep
they can pretty much say anything. you can get pulled over if the cop says it looked like one of your plate lights was out (had this happen and both plate lights were perfect/bright).
as for popping the hood, they could say your car sounded modified. i had a cop tell me he saw a "blue flame" coming out of one of my old cars (which was completely stock except for suspension).
pretty much whatever it is they say gave them a reason to suspect there was some sort of illegal modification is good enough to make you the bad guy if you don't pop the hood.
our emission laws are pretty tight. if i was the type of cop who liked to pull people over and pop the hood, i'm sure i could fabricate a reason to pull over a law abiding 75 year old lady in a new prius and make her pop the hood. i suppose i'd probably impound her car and arrest her for dui since she'd probably be on medications that say she shouldn't be driving too... gotta serve and protect the public.
they can pretty much say anything. you can get pulled over if the cop says it looked like one of your plate lights was out (had this happen and both plate lights were perfect/bright).
as for popping the hood, they could say your car sounded modified. i had a cop tell me he saw a "blue flame" coming out of one of my old cars (which was completely stock except for suspension).
pretty much whatever it is they say gave them a reason to suspect there was some sort of illegal modification is good enough to make you the bad guy if you don't pop the hood.
our emission laws are pretty tight. if i was the type of cop who liked to pull people over and pop the hood, i'm sure i could fabricate a reason to pull over a law abiding 75 year old lady in a new prius and make her pop the hood. i suppose i'd probably impound her car and arrest her for dui since she'd probably be on medications that say she shouldn't be driving too... gotta serve and protect the public.
I won't consent to a search for anything. My constitutional rights will not be infringed because some ***** cop pulls some stupid **** and searches my car without my permission. I will document it, go to court, sue, go to the news, basically do anything in my power to protect my and fellow Americans rights.
This goes for any cop out there. Just because you have a badge, and a gun, doesn't mean you can tweek, change, or break the law.
FYI, I want to be a US Marshall and I am in college taking the proper steps to pursue this career.
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09-12-2011, 04:04 PM
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I got 4 tickets in Vegas in 2 years...all for speeding.. All got turned into parking violations and only paid 100 bucks.. Never got bothered for no front plates or my tint (windshield tinted ) , or never got bothered for my car being too loud.. I would always get caught by damn bike cops too :/ .... I loved Vegas because the tickets where so great.. Go to court once, plead not guilty, go the second time, a person comes up says this is a fire sale situation, pay 100 and we turn it into a parking violation.. No points , no driving school California on the other hand loves to **** you over!!
California on the other hand loves to **** you over!! 
09-13-2011, 12:57 AM
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yep
they can pretty much say anything. you can get pulled over if the cop says it looked like one of your plate lights was out (had this happen and both plate lights were perfect/bright).
as for popping the hood, they could say your car sounded modified. i had a cop tell me he saw a "blue flame" coming out of one of my old cars (which was completely stock except for suspension).
pretty much whatever it is they say gave them a reason to suspect there was some sort of illegal modification is good enough to make you the bad guy if you don't pop the hood.
our emission laws are pretty tight. if i was the type of cop who liked to pull people over and pop the hood, i'm sure i could fabricate a reason to pull over a law abiding 75 year old lady in a new prius and make her pop the hood. i suppose i'd probably impound her car and arrest her for dui since she'd probably be on medications that say she shouldn't be driving too... gotta serve and protect the public.
they can pretty much say anything. you can get pulled over if the cop says it looked like one of your plate lights was out (had this happen and both plate lights were perfect/bright).
as for popping the hood, they could say your car sounded modified. i had a cop tell me he saw a "blue flame" coming out of one of my old cars (which was completely stock except for suspension).
pretty much whatever it is they say gave them a reason to suspect there was some sort of illegal modification is good enough to make you the bad guy if you don't pop the hood.
our emission laws are pretty tight. if i was the type of cop who liked to pull people over and pop the hood, i'm sure i could fabricate a reason to pull over a law abiding 75 year old lady in a new prius and make her pop the hood. i suppose i'd probably impound her car and arrest her for dui since she'd probably be on medications that say she shouldn't be driving too... gotta serve and protect the public.
Of course, they may still choose to do it (which doesn't make it right/legal), but at least you don't vacate your rights. In the event they do find something and it does goes to court, you still have a leg to stand on because you did not consent to a search.
In the original example, he was pulled over for tint. The cop didn't say the car sounded modified, he just said to pop the hood. The OP did, and now has to pay the price.
There is a good vid on the internet put out by a lawyer on how to handle a traffic stop and how to impede the search of your vehicle. It included getting out of your vehicle, locking the doors, and not consenting to any search. Great advice.
09-13-2011, 01:23 AM
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Sorry to hear that man.
Yeah cops can be ******** some times.
The worst part on that is that we pay them to be like that. All the ******* money the state steal from us paying tax and all that bs. They should threat us a little better!
Some cops are cool, I been pulled over few times for mo reason they don't even ask for License.
Some others I'm just parked and they come to me asking for Ls. **** that I'm not even driving.
It's funny you have your car, pay tax, registration, and all that crap and you can't do **** to it cuz it's ILLEGAL. It's my car I do what ever the hell I want.
They have idiots making the laws or they probably drive prius lol.
Yeah cops can be ******** some times.
The worst part on that is that we pay them to be like that. All the ******* money the state steal from us paying tax and all that bs. They should threat us a little better!
Some cops are cool, I been pulled over few times for mo reason they don't even ask for License.
Some others I'm just parked and they come to me asking for Ls. **** that I'm not even driving.
It's funny you have your car, pay tax, registration, and all that crap and you can't do **** to it cuz it's ILLEGAL. It's my car I do what ever the hell I want.
They have idiots making the laws or they probably drive prius lol.
09-13-2011, 09:05 AM
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For the hell of it I went to an online lawyer site and asked if I could have refused to open the hood since he stopped me for tint. I could have refused. Tint was not probable cause.
09-13-2011, 09:56 AM
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That is the cop way of doing things. Most then wonder why people hate them.
I won't consent to a search for anything. My constitutional rights will not be infringed because some ***** cop pulls some stupid **** and searches my car without my permission. I will document it, go to court, sue, go to the news, basically do anything in my power to protect my and fellow Americans rights.
This goes for any cop out there. Just because you have a badge, and a gun, doesn't mean you can tweek, change, or break the law.
FYI, I want to be a US Marshall and I am in college taking the proper steps to pursue this career.
I won't consent to a search for anything. My constitutional rights will not be infringed because some ***** cop pulls some stupid **** and searches my car without my permission. I will document it, go to court, sue, go to the news, basically do anything in my power to protect my and fellow Americans rights.
This goes for any cop out there. Just because you have a badge, and a gun, doesn't mean you can tweek, change, or break the law.
FYI, I want to be a US Marshall and I am in college taking the proper steps to pursue this career.
09-13-2011, 11:39 PM
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I know that there are good cops out there. But I also know that there are countless ones who are a@@holes who will take any opportunity to *** with someone. I had one pull me over because he "couldn't read my plate" (had working stock lighting mind you). I have since "fixed this" and haven't been messed with this since.
09-14-2011, 01:21 AM
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Probable cause is for criminal charges, not traffic tickets. You can definitely refuse search of your property, whether under your hood or on your rolled down windows. If he saw you with the windows up thats one thing, but if you had them down before and during the time in which you were stopped, you can kindly decline a search.
09-14-2011, 09:09 AM
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I think it's one of those damned If I do open the hood and damned if don't. I know someone local with stock manifold and cats. Also I will put a less aggressive cam maybe a 224/228 cam.
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Brothers and Sisters to the West, keep fighting the good fight out there in Cali. Ya'll set the damn standard for laws everywhere else. We shot down red light cameras twice here in Houston, and though they have implemented smog testing inside the largely populated areas, they do not have it in most of Tx. I have my car and truck both registered out in the country at our ranch, so I can do damn near whatever I want as long as I have the basic safety items. The more you fight for your rights in that rip off state, the better off we are.