Mind checking another one for me?
Thread Starter
Teching In
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
From: Oklahoma
Mind checking another one for me? https://ls1tech.com/forums/vehicle-c...cs-inside.html
Looking at this one but I feel like the price is a little up there. I think it's a 10k car after reading the "seller" sticky seeing as it's modded and such. What do you guys think am I in the wrong?
Looking at this one but I feel like the price is a little up there. I think it's a 10k car after reading the "seller" sticky seeing as it's modded and such. What do you guys think am I in the wrong?
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 34,629
Likes: 2,550
From: Schiller Park, ILL Member: #317
Please keep pricing debates in this section only, not in the seller's ad. For this reason, I deleted the post you made there. If you wish to make a legitimate offer that's fine, but any debate/discussion about price should remain here and out of the actual ad.
Not sure if this was the original price from when the car was first listed several months ago, but if so then that would be indication that the price is too high (as it hasn't sold in all this time.) Having said that, it appears to be an original 345hp package SS so that will increase value for some buyers (though the premium for this is less due to the mileage and the fact the car isn't totally stock.) Ultimately, it's just an asking price and it doesn't mean that the seller is firm and unwilling to entertain offers.
The seller states, "I assure you that you will not find a cleaner unmolested SS car. I say that with confidence, not cockiness." This isn't true, as the car is in fact modified (therefore it's not "unmolested") and, at 50k miles, I'm sure there are even cleaner cars with less mileage. That doesn't mean it's not an extremely nice car, it may be exceptional in person, but just as there is always someone with a faster car, there is also always a car in better shape (unless you have an '02 SS with 3-digit mileage or less, you can rest assured that you don't have the cleanest one in the country.)
Not sure if this was the original price from when the car was first listed several months ago, but if so then that would be indication that the price is too high (as it hasn't sold in all this time.) Having said that, it appears to be an original 345hp package SS so that will increase value for some buyers (though the premium for this is less due to the mileage and the fact the car isn't totally stock.) Ultimately, it's just an asking price and it doesn't mean that the seller is firm and unwilling to entertain offers.
The seller states, "I assure you that you will not find a cleaner unmolested SS car. I say that with confidence, not cockiness." This isn't true, as the car is in fact modified (therefore it's not "unmolested") and, at 50k miles, I'm sure there are even cleaner cars with less mileage. That doesn't mean it's not an extremely nice car, it may be exceptional in person, but just as there is always someone with a faster car, there is also always a car in better shape (unless you have an '02 SS with 3-digit mileage or less, you can rest assured that you don't have the cleanest one in the country.)
I would say it's a 13k car in that condition, low miles, mods, and full service records/reciepts as he has. However, both kbb and nada put it much lower than that, but they always do for older camaros. They also say my 94's are only worth like 3 grand or less, which is bullshit. Pretty much everyone here knows a good clean example lt1 will run 4-6 grand, depending on mileage. So, here in Ohio at least, this would be a 12-13k car.
Thread Starter
Teching In
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
From: Oklahoma
Please keep pricing debates in this section only, not in the seller's ad. For this reason, I deleted the post you made there. If you wish to make a legitimate offer that's fine, but any debate/discussion about price should remain here and out of the actual ad.
Not sure if this was the original price from when the car was first listed several months ago, but if so then that would be indication that the price is too high (as it hasn't sold in all this time.) Having said that, it appears to be an original 345hp package SS so that will increase value for some buyers (though the premium for this is less due to the mileage and the fact the car isn't totally stock.) Ultimately, it's just an asking price and it doesn't mean that the seller is firm and unwilling to entertain offers.
The seller states, "I assure you that you will not find a cleaner unmolested SS car. I say that with confidence, not cockiness." This isn't true, as the car is in fact modified (therefore it's not "unmolested") and, at 50k miles, I'm sure there are even cleaner cars with less mileage. That doesn't mean it's not an extremely nice car, it may be exceptional in person, but just as there is always someone with a faster car, there is also always a car in better shape (unless you have an '02 SS with 3-digit mileage or less, you can rest assured that you don't have the cleanest one in the country.)
Not sure if this was the original price from when the car was first listed several months ago, but if so then that would be indication that the price is too high (as it hasn't sold in all this time.) Having said that, it appears to be an original 345hp package SS so that will increase value for some buyers (though the premium for this is less due to the mileage and the fact the car isn't totally stock.) Ultimately, it's just an asking price and it doesn't mean that the seller is firm and unwilling to entertain offers.
The seller states, "I assure you that you will not find a cleaner unmolested SS car. I say that with confidence, not cockiness." This isn't true, as the car is in fact modified (therefore it's not "unmolested") and, at 50k miles, I'm sure there are even cleaner cars with less mileage. That doesn't mean it's not an extremely nice car, it may be exceptional in person, but just as there is always someone with a faster car, there is also always a car in better shape (unless you have an '02 SS with 3-digit mileage or less, you can rest assured that you don't have the cleanest one in the country.)
TECH Junkie
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 3,914
Likes: 676
From: Western North Carolina
It does look like a sweet car and probably worth that money, but yes, priced too high for an actual sale. Worth does not = a sales price in most instances. My car is worth $15k to me too, but selling it means thousands less. I don't kid myself. Due to the mods, that Camaro appeals to mostly the young male demographic which has little money to spend. The seller would be doing well to get $11k - $12k this time of year if he can find someone with the $$$. Again, cash is tough to find around young men and loans just as difficult for a now 14 year old used car. If you are truly interested just offer whatever you feel comfortable with. All he can say is 'no'. Then move on. Cash is king this time of year. Good luck!
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 34,629
Likes: 2,550
From: Schiller Park, ILL Member: #317
It does look like a sweet car and probably worth that money, but yes, priced too high for an actual sale. Worth does not = a sales price in most instances. My car is worth $15k to me too, but selling it means thousands less. I don't kid myself. Due to the mods, that Camaro appeals to mostly the young male demographic which has little money to spend. The seller would be doing well to get $11k - $12k this time of year if he can find someone with the $$$. Again, cash is tough to find around young men and loans just as difficult for a now 14 year old used car. If you are truly interested just offer whatever you feel comfortable with. All he can say is 'no'. Then move on. Cash is king this time of year. Good luck!
Trending Topics
TECH Enthusiast
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 587
Likes: 12
From: Connecticut SE shore
In peak summer months I'd expect to get a fully stock 20K-25K mile 2002 SS M6 CME car for around $14.5K-$15.5K. Probably $2K-$3K difference for those extra 20K-25K miles. Another deduction for the additional exterior black out areas assuming they are painted and not decals. The performance changes could be a + or - depending on who you are and what you desire. I'd consider them a moderate plus since the car should handle better. How long has the monster level 3 clutch been in the car? Preferably long enough to flag any potential issues.
I have a 17K mile SS M6 and I can assure you there are dozens of flaws in the exterior that I could point out to anyone (paint, glass, undercarriage, weatherstrip, mirrors, wheels, exhaust, wheel wells, rockers, frame, etc.). All if you have to do is look and be critical. If a 49K mile SS is without flaws, it must have accumulated those miles while on a lift, not on the road. I'd rather have an owner save me the time of finding them all and just point them all.
I have a 17K mile SS M6 and I can assure you there are dozens of flaws in the exterior that I could point out to anyone (paint, glass, undercarriage, weatherstrip, mirrors, wheels, exhaust, wheel wells, rockers, frame, etc.). All if you have to do is look and be critical. If a 49K mile SS is without flaws, it must have accumulated those miles while on a lift, not on the road. I'd rather have an owner save me the time of finding them all and just point them all.
Last edited by Firebrian; Jan 4, 2016 at 11:22 PM.
LS1 Tech Stories
The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them
Pouria Savadkouei
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph
Verdad Gallardo
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked
Pouria Savadkouei
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP
Verdad Gallardo
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes
Verdad Gallardo
Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power
Verdad Gallardo
10 Camaros You Should Never Buy
10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die
Verdad Gallardo Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 34,629
Likes: 2,550
From: Schiller Park, ILL Member: #317
I have a 17K mile SS M6 and I can assure you there are dozens of flaws in the exterior that I could point out to anyone (paint, glass, undercarriage, weatherstrip, mirrors, wheels, exhaust, wheel wells, rockers, frame, etc.). All if you have to do is look and be critical. If a 49K mile SS is without flaws, it must have accumulated those miles while on a lift, not on the road. I'd rather have an owner save me the time of finding them all and just point them all.
In many cases, I think what a seller really is trying to state is that their car is nicer than the average example with comparable mileage, or so it seems to them based on their experience. This may be true, but such bold statements are a turn-off to those of us who know better regarding the nature of truly flawless/perfect/mint vehicles. Many times, people who are not realistic about their pricing are also not realistic about the true condition of the car.
It does look like a sweet car and probably worth that money, but yes, priced too high for an actual sale. Worth does not = a sales price in most instances. My car is worth $15k to me too, but selling it means thousands less. I don't kid myself. Due to the mods, that Camaro appeals to mostly the young male demographic which has little money to spend. The seller would be doing well to get $11k - $12k this time of year if he can find someone with the $$$. Again, cash is tough to find around young men and loans just as difficult for a now 14 year old used car. If you are truly interested just offer whatever you feel comfortable with. All he can say is 'no'. Then move on. Cash is king this time of year. Good luck!
