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Old Mar 21, 2010 | 10:29 PM
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ok i have ordered the unit to work with a Sony CDW-GT440U HU.

i was reading PAC's instructions and i'm so thoroughly confused on the wiring.

http://www.pac-audio.com/swixprogram...ehicles&ID=108

Black wire: Connect the SWI-PS 's black wire to chassis ground. This is usually a black wire on the aftermarket wire kit.
Red wire: Connect the SWI-PS 's red wire to a switched +12volt wire. This is usually a red wire on the aftermarket wire kit.



when it said "aftermarket wire kit" what is it referring to?.. the wire harness that comes with the new HU?
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Yes, almost all aftermarket head unit manufacturers use a standard color scheme for their wiring. On the other hand, car manufacturers use whatever colors they find convenient. So it's easy to tell someone they can connect to red in the aftermarket harness for ignition-switched power and be reasonably sure that they will get the right thing. The equivalent ignition-switched power wire is yellow in the factory harness of f-bodies and different colors in other cars.
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Old Mar 29, 2010 | 05:15 PM
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so where would the green wire from the Pac SWI-PS need to splice into the aftermarket harness??

And then would i not have to splice that wire to the Deck Harness since its going to the PAC unit??

It would be like this basically?
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The green wire connects to the dark blue wire in the factory harness. There is no matching wire in the aftermarket harness.

The adapter needs power and ground (red and black wires), input from the steering wheel switches (green wire connected to the factory dark blue wire), and output to the head unit (wire with the 1/8" plug on it).
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Originally Posted by WhiteBird00
The green wire connects to the dark blue wire in the factory harness. There is no matching wire in the aftermarket harness.

The adapter needs power and ground (red and black wires), input from the steering wheel switches (green wire connected to the factory dark blue wire), and output to the head unit (wire with the 1/8" plug on it).
So if i have to barrel-connect the Red w/ Red and Black w/ Black between the deck and aftermarket harness, AS WELL as connecting those to the PAC SWI PS, then what is the best way to do that connection wise?

barrel-style crimp between the 2 harnesses and then tap in with a blue splice on each of them?

So if i understand you correctly... (brown squares are crimp connectors or splices)

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Yes that is what I did with my Sony, the only difference is that i soldered the wires.
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Yes that is what I did with my Sony, the only difference is that i soldered the wires.
thats a good idea

thanks!

why would the dark blue wire from the factory harness not have a wire in the aftermarket harness?

because then i cant do all the wiring outside of the car (i have to splice into factory blue wire)??
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I guess because, like my aftermarket harness, it was made to fit a wide variety of cars. There was someone that did make that type of harness but that was a while ago. In my case I had to add the steering wheel with the controls because in 1998 that was not an option. I had to run my own wires a real PITA.
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so that latest drawing i made is correct?
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Yes, it works for me. I had a little trouble programming the damm thing. It took me 2 tries to get it right. Also on Sony radios the pulg that goes from the PAC to the back of the radio, it looks like and old style radio plug! It did not fit very well into the back of mine because of the 90 degree. I had to actually had to cut some of the plastic away to keep it in. What would happen is while I was driving I would lose the function of my steering wheel controls. I called PAC and they told me to get an adapter that was stright. I choose just to cut some of the plastic away.
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i'm gunna solder everything out of the car as much as possible


how did you wire the green wire to the factory harness? did you solder that too?
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i was wiring this all up today and i have a few problems now...

1st) as i understand it, the orange is a "dimmer" something or other and i just tape it off. correct me if i'm wrong?

2nd) there is no blue/white striped wire for the Amp Remote in the aftermarket harness.. so does this mean i splice this wire into the factory harness? and what color would that be for that then????

3rd) as stated earlier, this green wire from the PAC SWI-PS gets spliced into the factory dark blue wire. correct me if i'm wrong?

4th) on the aftermarket harness bag, it states "NOTE: NOT FOR USE ON 'FACTORY AMPLIFIED' SOUND SYSTEMS"... but in my case it works if i wire this right, right? maybe they say this because most factory amplifiers in cars shoudlnt get fed an amplified signal from the head unit, however, the monsoon system works like this???




AFTERMARKET HARNESS INFO


STEREO HARNESS INFO
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I can't believe that more than a week and 13 posts have been spent on connecting a wire harness. Perhaps at this point you should put down the wire strippers and step away from the car.

All the wires in the adapter harness should match up color-for-color with the Sony head unit wires. If it doesn't then you might have the wrong adapter harness.

1- Orange (or orange with white) is the dimmer control wire. It should connect to the orange (or orange with white) wire from the head unit. This is what controls the dimming of the display when you turn on your headlights.

2 - There should be a blue with white wire or you have the wrong harness. In any case, it isn't necessary unless you are using an aftermarket amplifier. The Monsoon amp doesn't use a remote turn on wire - it senses signal on the audio channels to trigger turning on.

3 - Yes. PAC green wire to factory dark blue.

4 - Correct. The warning applies to systems like Bose that send pre-amp level signal to their amps. The Monsoon can be treated like any ordinary unamplified system.
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OK let me as this question. Exactly-- what is the manufacturer and model# of you aftermarket harness. The reason is that it is possible to get the wrong GM harness for the Monsoon. The 1st one I purchased from Wal Mart was incorrect.
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Originally Posted by WhiteBird00
I can't believe that more than a week and 13 posts have been spent on connecting a wire harness. Perhaps at this point you should put down the wire strippers and step away from the car.

All the wires in the adapter harness should match up color-for-color with the Sony head unit wires. If it doesn't then you might have the wrong adapter harness.

1- Orange (or orange with white) is the dimmer control wire. It should connect to the orange (or orange with white) wire from the head unit. This is what controls the dimming of the display when you turn on your headlights.

2 - There should be a blue with white wire or you have the wrong harness. In any case, it isn't necessary unless you are using an aftermarket amplifier. The Monsoon amp doesn't use a remote turn on wire - it senses signal on the audio channels to trigger turning on.

3 - Yes. PAC green wire to factory dark blue.

4 - Correct. The warning applies to systems like Bose that send pre-amp level signal to their amps. The Monsoon can be treated like any ordinary unamplified system.
if you read the wire harness information i'm dealing with, you'd understand my confusion. i understand how speakers work like the back of my hand etc etc but when it comes to this harness crap i just dont want to screw it up.

and fyi, i havent even stepped into my car for over 3 months, it comes out monday and i'm just doing my homework/as much as i can outside of the car before i do stuff to it


anyway,

1) the aftermarket harness does have an orange wire, it is the sony HU that doesnt have an orange wire. so i guess the stereo just doesnt dim...

2) the aftermarket harness does not have a blue/white wire. no idea why. it says it should on the bag but it just doesnt. but if the monsoon amp doesnt even need it then i'll just tape it off and forget about it..?

otherwise thank you for your insight on my problem
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OK let me as this question. Exactly-- what is the manufacturer and model# of you aftermarket harness. The reason is that it is possible to get the wrong GM harness for the Monsoon. The 1st one I purchased from Wal Mart was incorrect.
aftermarket harness is SCOSCHE GMO2B "1988-UP GENERAL MOTORS mini CAR STEREO CONNECTOR"

its what they gave me for when i told them 2000 camaro z28 w/ monsoon lol
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OK I looked at you install instructions. Just hook up your speakers- whites, grays, greens, purples. Hook up the red to red, the black to black, don't worry about the orange you HU does not have that Nor the Yellow , Blue tape them off

wire your black to black and red to red on the PAC also the green from the Pac to the dark blue on the factory harness and that is all there is.

Programming the PAC may be a bit of a challange.
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OK I looked at you install instructions. Just hook up your speakers- whites, grays, greens, purples. Hook up the red to red, the black to black, don't worry about the orange you HU does not have that Nor the Yellow , Blue tape them off

wire your black to black and red to red on the PAC also the green from the Pac to the dark blue on the factory harness and that is all there is.

Programming the PAC may be a bit of a challange.
programming should go smoothly. we will see

thank you for all your help

whenever i buy something i research the crap out of it so i know what i'm doing when i go to put it in.. thats all i've been trying to do. now all i should have to do is splice that one PAC wire and thats it
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