2002 Camaro Headlights
Their name is orange still.
BLSolutions: https://ls1tech.com/forums/member.php?u=164984
http://www.blackbirdlighting.com/
Either way, his stuff is better than anything you'll find on CarID (there you'll find the same cheap stuff as ebay).
Which LED Headlight bulbs are you using? Almost all drop-ins I've seen are crap. The only one that I've seen that had a remotely close beam pattern to what was intended was a Genuine Philips unit intended for H4 housings. Even the "good" ones shift the light closer to the car losing distance. The only exception so far being the aforementioned Philips (which isn't perfect either).
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Which LED Headlight bulbs are you using? Almost all drop-ins I've seen are crap. The only one that I've seen that had a remotely close beam pattern to what was intended was a Genuine Philips unit intended for H4 housings. Even the "good" ones shift the light closer to the car losing distance. The only exception so far being the aforementioned Philips (which isn't perfect either).
I've seen a lot of the popular aftermarket projector housings, and the output is just...bad. Like, beyond terrible. The optics are crap, and throwing an HID kit in it won't make it any better. A drop in LED in that would be even worse. I would just stick with BLS, or if you're a do-it-yourself kinda person, do a retrofit with halos.
I now have the LMZ Platinum kit from V-LEDs. They are 5000K pure white (also available in 6000K cool white) and produce 4500 lumens each which is about 40% more than typical HID and double the output of the H9 halogen bulb they replaced, yet they use less power so they are safe with factory wiring. They also have adjustable mounting collars so that you can change the position and orientation of the LEDs to best suit your headlights. In my case, I found that installing with the LEDs pointing to the sides produced the best light although having them top and bottom still produced plenty of usable light.
I have also seen many people complaining in various forums about light output from these aftermarket projector lamps. One big reason is that they bought the "stylish" smoked lens versions. Those who bought the black (with clear lens) versions were impressed with the improvement. This was especially common in the Mustang forums because the biggest vendor sold only the smoked version until recently. I have always had the black with clear lens so I've never experienced the dismal output caused by the tinted lenses. However, I have experienced the terrible aiming of the lamps out of the box. Proper aiming makes a huge difference in usable light but a lot of people install without aiming. One other common complaint is one of perception - people replacing reflector housings and not familiar with the sharp cutoff of a projector beam often feel that they are losing overall light output when they are actually gaining more focused light.
I can't see any difference in beam pattern or overall consistency of light between the LED lamps and the HIDs they replaced. The LEDs are a little brighter but the big advantages are that they require no warm up time to reach full brightness and don't have problems with flash-to-pass, the color is accurate and consistent, and they should outlast the car.
One thing I found about these LED kits is that they can be very sensitive to voltage fluctuations. I found mine had a subtle but annoying flicker at idle. Installing a relay harness and CAN BUS adapters (basically inline capacitors) completely eliminated all flickering.
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http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/show...output-picture
http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/show...MZ-4500-lumens
http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/show...i-h1-projector
Last edited by VIP1; Nov 29, 2015 at 06:47 PM.
As far as beam pattern, I haven't seen any flares or anomalies in the light pattern against my garage door... not very scientific but good enough for my needs. I briefly browsed through the links you provided and it seemed that the complaints about LED patterns were related to reflector housings which is the same as using HIDs in reflectors. I don't see how any light source in a projector lamp could change the foreground/distance illumination since the light focus is provided by the front lens and not a reflector behind the light source (i.e. a reflector combines direct light emission with reflected light so the balance could change based on the position and aim of the reflector but a projector focuses only from the lens in front of the light source so the distribution should be the same regardless of source).
One of those threads has pics of those LED drop-ins in Projectors showing this happen.






