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Old Jan 20, 2007 | 10:39 PM
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I have a 95 firebird with the basic sound system.. that has 4-6.5" speakers.. It does not have the speakers in the hatch.. I plan to buy some used hatch panels that will mount extra speakers into them so i will have a total of 6.. I plan to have some Alpine Type S's up front and Type R's in the rear (when possible). For now I have the stock HU, but plan to replace it down the road also... How should I go about wiring those extra 2 speakers into my current system?
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Old Jan 20, 2007 | 10:52 PM
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Why do you want the hatch speakers? With your current setup - there is no good way to make it work.

EDIT: I only ask why you want hatch speakers because most usually dump them down the road... I would reconsider this idea.

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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 01:02 AM
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If you have 4 full range speakers on the four corners, hatch speakers make no sense. There are hatch speakers in the Monsoon system only because the sail panel speakers are midbasses only.
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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 06:21 PM
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So i won't get better/louder sound at all? 4 rather than 6?
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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 06:32 PM
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So i won't get better/louder sound at all? 4 rather than 6?
So...you basically want full range speakers in the doors, rear sails, and the hatch? As mentioned above...the reason they are there on Monsoon setups is because the rear sails are "subs"..

If you want better/louder sound, upgrade your current system (HU/speakers/amp/etc..)

-also, like I said before - you can't really just "add" speakers into your existing system without purchasing an amplifier to power them (or run them off HU and whatever other speakers off the amp)
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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 06:43 PM
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Skip the hatch speakers and do the following:

1. Upgrade the HU
2. Upgrade the speakers (amp the fronts, let the HU power the rears)
3. Add a subwoofer

This will be super easy since you have the basic setup, not the 10 speaker setup.
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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 07:28 PM
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I have a Sony Xplod 222W amp, i might use on them.. I have planned to add an amp to it the whole time.. I will upgrade the HU.. I do not want to add a subwoofer.. but i do want a nice loud bass but not rattling bass... so what could i put in the hatch?

if you read earlier i will be buying Alpine speakers all the way around.. not just keeping the stock.. maybe i typed it wrong.. i don't want to add the speakers into the stock system.. i want to add them to my other Alpines when I get them.. I am no car audio buff.. so how is the best way to wire it? and where do you other F-Body owners install your amp?
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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 07:51 PM
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I have a Sony Xplod 222W amp, i might use on them.. I have planned to add an amp to it the whole time.. I will upgrade the HU.. I do not want to add a subwoofer.. but i do want a nice loud bass but not rattling bass... so what could i put in the hatch?
You want more bass...not from a sub...but speakers in the hatch? That won't happen..since I'm assuming you were looking at the 4" speakers to go there, and nothing else can really be put there and sound good. Have you looked at the stealth box setups? Or if you don't want a box you can put some 6.5" subs in the the rear sails and then hatch speakers....but you will have less highs then..which is what you seem to be looking to add.

I would just get a nice set of components for the doors (Alpines aren't the best for this..) then some nice coaxials for the rear sails...amp them all, of just the components..

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if you read earlier i will be buying Alpine speakers all the way around.. not just keeping the stock.. maybe i typed it wrong.. i don't want to add the speakers into the stock system.. i want to add them to my other Alpines when I get them.. I am no car audio buff.. so how is the best way to wire it? and where do you other F-Body owners install your amp?
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How should I go about wiring those extra 2 speakers into my current system?
That made it sound as if you wanted to add hatch speakers to your current system...which is stock.

Usually the amp is put in the trunk....either mounted on a wall/board somewhere, in the "hatch" area itself, somewhere near the spare... Just play around with your amp, see where you like it/where it fits..

I've got a smaller one in the left well area in the trunk:

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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 08:04 PM
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So which Alpines do you recommend? I've been thinking Type S in front Type R in back, any recommendations?
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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by HoLLo
So which Alpines do you recommend? I've been thinking Type S in front Type R in back, any recommendations?
Are you 100% dead set on only Alpine components for the doors?
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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 08:50 PM
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No, i was just thinkin about them

and a good HU to go along with it?
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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by HoLLo
No, i was just thinkin about them

and a good HU to go along with it?
I was just wondering if there was some reason -- I know some people do like the type s components, but some also prefer to stay away from Alpine components.

Just don't limit yourself to Alpine - here are some other's to consider as door components (staying away from high end stuff):
Kenwood, Infinity, Polk, MB Quartz, Pioneer, Phoenix Gold, Elemental Designs...in no particular order.

Everything depends on what you're willing to spend. What is your price range for a HU?
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Umm.. i probably dont want to spend more than $200.... but i can get a discount at my work.. so i can get almost 1/2 off.. of my car audio stuff
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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by HoLLo
Umm.. i probably dont want to spend more than $200.... but i can get a discount at my work.. so i can get almost 1/2 off.. of my car audio stuff
Well might as well plan your system around whatever higher quality brands are that you have there -- look at the thread "best Alpine HU under $500" that was started recently....should give you some ideas as far as HUs go.
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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by fredmr39
Just don't limit yourself to Alpine - here are some other's to consider as door components (staying away from high end stuff):
Kenwood, Infinity, Polk, MB Quartz, Pioneer, Phoenix Gold, Elemental Designs...in no particular order.
I currently use Kenwood components for my front stage, really like 'em. Clear and loud, did not cost too much, and am only pushing 40 watts RMS per channel. But, they are lacking a little in the bass department (that's why I have a subwoofer too).
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