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so...
ALPINE FTW
Alpine is sticking with the Sound Quality aspect where everyone else is just going for looks... BOOOOOOO on them...
I wouldn't buy anything else.
Ohh, and if you don't believe me.. the look who wins the sq comps every year.. it's not anything but alpine decks.
Does anyone know of any car audio forums, or sites with good info?
http://www.caraudioforum.com/vbb3/index.php
so...
ALPINE FTW
Alpine is sticking with the Sound Quality aspect where everyone else is just going for looks... BOOOOOOO on them...
I wouldn't buy anything else.
Ohh, and if you don't believe me.. the look who wins the sq comps every year.. it's not anything but alpine decks.
Show me the results from IASCA that proves every SQ winner used an Alpine deck.
Last edited by 95bat; Apr 9, 2007 at 10:10 PM.
so...
ALPINE FTW
Alpine is sticking with the Sound Quality aspect where everyone else is just going for looks... BOOOOOOO on them...
I wouldn't buy anything else.
Ohh, and if you don't believe me.. the look who wins the sq comps every year.. it's not anything but alpine decks.
Now, the current models offer no built in eq or processing, not even the top model 9885. Reason being, is Alpine has created an add-on digital processor, that is infact very good, and very popular on the competition scene. But at about 600 bucks, the average guy who just wants a nice sounding system is not going to want to spend that, on top of what he spent for a head unit.
If you are a serious SQ nut and you are adding outboard processing anyway, Alpine is still a worthy candidate, as all you need from a deck at that point is reliability, ease of use, and cosmetics. But if you are looking for upgraded sound, and don't want to add other processors, eqs, crossovers, etc .. then Alpine has nothing for you anymore. The best value, imo, for that market is the Pioneer 880PRS. Nice deck, with built in crossover, time alignment, and independant left and right 13 band EQ (to my knowledge, it's the first deck to offer independant EQ built in, at least at this price point).
As for the competitors, yes, Alpine is popular, but I think you may start to see that go down as Alpine is starting to tone down their product line, while others are catching up. But up until a year ago, the Pioneer P9 system dominated the competition circuit.
I like Alpine, I just wish that they would not take a step back on the head units like they did this year.
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Now, the current models offer no built in eq or processing, not even the top model 9885. Reason being, is Alpine has created an add-on digital processor, that is infact very good, and very popular on the competition scene. But at about 600 bucks, the average guy who just wants a nice sounding system is not going to want to spend that, on top of what he spent for a head unit.
If you are a serious SQ nut and you are adding outboard processing anyway, Alpine is still a worthy candidate, as all you need from a deck at that point is reliability, ease of use, and cosmetics. But if you are looking for upgraded sound, and don't want to add other processors, eqs, crossovers, etc .. then Alpine has nothing for you anymore. The best value, imo, for that market is the Pioneer 880PRS. Nice deck, with built in crossover, time alignment, and independant left and right 13 band EQ (to my knowledge, it's the first deck to offer independant EQ built in, at least at this price point).
As for the competitors, yes, Alpine is popular, but I think you may start to see that go down as Alpine is starting to tone down their product line, while others are catching up. But up until a year ago, the Pioneer P9 system dominated the competition circuit.
I like Alpine, I just wish that they would not take a step back on the head units like they did this year.
I agree that they went away from their traditional sq roll last year, but I talked to the local representative for Alpine and asked him what they were thinking.
He stated that people just don't care about the sound quality anymore and are all in it for looks. So when Alpine started making head-units in 2006 they had ALOT of people complaining. He said that they are now going back to the original strategy of making good sq decks. Apline promissed him that the 2007 decks are going to be great decks, like their pdx amplifiers.
I guess I'm just picky upon they way things sound and the quality. I could care less if they rotated the display and had cars driving on them... I'm not here for the show.
I had a pair of Focal Utopia 6" 5 1/4" and tweet with a Xtant 1001.1 (the ones before they were bought out) and 604.4 with an older alpine deck running 3 xtant 10'' X Series subs... and let me tell you, It was amazing.. to bad it was all stollen... ... ...
Alpine better come back.. or I'll bomb them LOL
And just in my opinion, I believe if you get the right components for your stereo, good RCAs.. power cable.. and all, that you won't need a sound processor. The crossovers on the speakers and amplifiers should do enough to make it sound great.
My $.02
He stated that people just don't care about the sound quality anymore and are all in it for looks. So when Alpine started making head-units in 2006 they had ALOT of people complaining.
I guess I'm just picky upon they way things sound and the quality. I could care less if they rotated the display and had cars driving on them... I'm not here for the show.
Alpine better come back.. or I'll bomb them LOL
And just in my opinion, I believe if you get the right components for your stereo, good RCAs.. power cable.. and all, that you won't need a sound processor. The crossovers on the speakers and amplifiers should do enough to make it sound great.
My $.02

My $.02

when I say processor, I don't mean things like fancy jazz club dsp effects, and other gimmicks, I use it as a generic term for a EQ, Crossover, Time Alignment, and Phaze adjustment if available. And yes, no matter how good your components are, you need it. Why, because no matter how good your equipment is, you are installing it in a car, which will completely alter the frequency response of your system. That is why systems like the P9, the Alpine 701 and F1 processors, the Rockford 360, and soon, the JBL MS-8 are all the rage on the comp circuit right now. The ability to digitally adjust all aspects of your system from one interface is really sweet!
I've been using an early prototype of the JBL MS-8, and I could actually change the phase of a paticular band of frequencies, which helps with correcting imaging problems for both driver and passenger side, as opposed to time alignment which makes one side worse as the other side gets better.
All mine have
2-line color display with spectrum analyzer
MaxTune SQ tuner
Bass Engine Pro (5-band parametric EQ, 6-channel digital time correction, 6-position crossover with variable slope, plus subwoofer phase and level controls)
Media Xpander i-Personalize — create customized Bass Engine setups and text greetings
4-volt front, rear, and subwoofer preamp outputs
CD signal-to-noise ratio 105 dB
