View Poll Results: Volant CAI or SLP lid with new filter?
Voland cold air intake
50
21.93%
SLP lid with a new airfilter
178
78.07%
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02-22-2006, 09:56 PM
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best intake...... Volant cold air intake or just an SLP box with a good filter...PLEASE JUST TELL ME...dont care about price best performance......?
02-22-2006, 10:59 PM
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I want to know the real deal about this also. I have a volant air on my car that came on it 3 years ago and just left it on. It seems to work great. Made great power with cam and bolt ons.
I was told by a trusted freind that I would pick up a few by going to a box and lid.
IS THIS TRUE. Any real proof out there????
Do tel
I am about to step up to a bigger setup and need solid advice aswell.l.
I was told by a trusted freind that I would pick up a few by going to a box and lid.
IS THIS TRUE. Any real proof out there????
Do tel
I am about to step up to a bigger setup and need solid advice aswell.l.
02-22-2006, 11:19 PM
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Someone will have to show me on paper.I bought the FIPK for the ability to flow more air.I just don't think a lid and factory airbox can do that.I may be wrong,and if I am then so be it.
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02-22-2006, 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by T-rex
Someone will have to show me on paper.I bought the FIPK for the ability to flow more air.I just don't think a lid and factory airbox can do that.I may be wrong,and if I am then so be it.
I kinda think this way aswell.
02-23-2006, 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by who281
Volant cold air intake or just an SLP box with a good filter...PLEASE JUST TELL ME...dont care about price best performance......?
Add a pole to see what wins!
02-23-2006, 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by T-rex
Someone will have to show me on paper.I bought the FIPK for the ability to flow more air.I just don't think a lid and factory airbox can do that.I may be wrong,and if I am then so be it.
Assume on a scale of 1 to 10, a stock engine requires 5 and a heavily modified one 7.
If an aftermarket lid can flow 8 and a volant/FIPK 9 you'd see no differance because it's beyond the requirement of the engine.
Air box resonance and cool air ducts combined with surface area are often far more important than the flow ability of the filter eliment, hence people who use k&N drop in filters see no performance gain.
In addition OEM paper filters have been bench tested to flow well enough to support 500bhp n/a.
02-23-2006, 08:28 AM
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personally i think it depends on your hood to make the best out of the volant. on a camaro..if you have an ultra-z or similiar type hood like my Mecham then I would go volant. if you have a stock gm hood either z or ss i would get a lid.
on any firebird i would go volant as it has openings to make the volant worthwhile.
click on my sig pic for more pics of the hood and intake setup
on any firebird i would go volant as it has openings to make the volant worthwhile.
click on my sig pic for more pics of the hood and intake setup
02-23-2006, 08:36 AM
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I had a lid and filter with the FRA mod and consistently ran 108-109 mph in the quarter.
I switched to a K&N FIPK because I thought the same thing you did. I consistently ran about 106-107 in the quarter.
However, I made more horsepower on the DynoJet with the K&N setup. With the lid and filter made 318 rwhp, with the K&N FIPK, made 326 rwhp, K&N and MACs, made 340 rwhp. The hood was open for the dyno runs. No computer tuning for any runs.
These are not everyone's results...just mine.
I switched to a K&N FIPK because I thought the same thing you did. I consistently ran about 106-107 in the quarter.
However, I made more horsepower on the DynoJet with the K&N setup. With the lid and filter made 318 rwhp, with the K&N FIPK, made 326 rwhp, K&N and MACs, made 340 rwhp. The hood was open for the dyno runs. No computer tuning for any runs.
These are not everyone's results...just mine.
02-23-2006, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by NOBR8KSS
I had a lid and filter with the FRA mod and consistently ran 108-109 mph in the quarter.
I switched to a K&N FIPK because I thought the same thing you did. I consistently ran about 106-107 in the quarter.
However, I made more horsepower on the DynoJet with the K&N setup. With the lid and filter made 318 rwhp, with the K&N FIPK, made 326 rwhp, K&N and MACs, made 340 rwhp. The hood was open for the dyno runs. No computer tuning for any runs.
These are not everyone's results...just mine.
I switched to a K&N FIPK because I thought the same thing you did. I consistently ran about 106-107 in the quarter.
However, I made more horsepower on the DynoJet with the K&N setup. With the lid and filter made 318 rwhp, with the K&N FIPK, made 326 rwhp, K&N and MACs, made 340 rwhp. The hood was open for the dyno runs. No computer tuning for any runs.
These are not everyone's results...just mine.
02-23-2006, 03:38 PM
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im kinda shooting myself in the foot here.....(i have a volant for sale)
but i did a back to back dyno test. 5 minutes apart. first with the volant, then with the lid (lid, filter, lower air box, everything) and we picked up 6 rwhp with not touching anything else.......
however the TA version on the volant flows MUCH better do to the neck. and i seriously doubt has the same flow problems as the camaro volant. (do a search ive posted up pics and write up on this problem)
but i did a back to back dyno test. 5 minutes apart. first with the volant, then with the lid (lid, filter, lower air box, everything) and we picked up 6 rwhp with not touching anything else.......
however the TA version on the volant flows MUCH better do to the neck. and i seriously doubt has the same flow problems as the camaro volant. (do a search ive posted up pics and write up on this problem)
02-23-2006, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by 300bhp/ton
Well it all depends on how much a lid can flow. It has a good surface area.
Assume on a scale of 1 to 10, a stock engine requires 5 and a heavily modified one 7.
If an aftermarket lid can flow 8 and a volant/FIPK 9 you'd see no differance because it's beyond the requirement of the engine.
Air box resonance and cool air ducts combined with surface area are often far more important than the flow ability of the filter eliment, hence people who use k&N drop in filters see no performance gain.
In addition OEM paper filters have been bench tested to flow well enough to support 500bhp n/a.
Assume on a scale of 1 to 10, a stock engine requires 5 and a heavily modified one 7.
If an aftermarket lid can flow 8 and a volant/FIPK 9 you'd see no differance because it's beyond the requirement of the engine.
Air box resonance and cool air ducts combined with surface area are often far more important than the flow ability of the filter eliment, hence people who use k&N drop in filters see no performance gain.
In addition OEM paper filters have been bench tested to flow well enough to support 500bhp n/a.
i dont believe this to be true, yeah it might not be a big gain with a k&n versus paper but there is a 1-3 hp difference depending on which dyno you want to look at, it all adds up...a stock filter will be more restrictive than a k&n it is proven...