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Old 07-14-2013, 11:34 AM
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Default 3/8 Pushrod Clearance on Unmilled 243

Doing a lot of searching only found 1 or 2 guys running them but threads are old

Is there clearance for 3/8 Pushrod On Unmilled 243 ?

Going to give Manton a call mon morning forgot to call last week
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Nope, 11/32 yes but 3/8 will need p-rod hole guides enlarged. It is not expensive to get done and not difficult.
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Why is the need for that big of a pushrods? 11/32 is a but of overkill if you ask me...
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Originally Posted by wildcamaro
Why is the need for that big of a pushrods? 11/32 is a but of overkill if you ask me...
Ok, you have me, I'm asking; why??
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Why not ?
Why not spend little more for extra valve train stability
Seems like win win to me might be overkill but it's not like I'm going to be spending $$$$$
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As long as you drill out the pushrod hole you can run 3/8 PR's all day long. Also there are .110" walled 5/16 Pushrods that are extremely stiff. PR flex can beat **** to death.

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Where does 3/8 usually have clearance issues ?

My pushrod hole size is around 1/2 " looks like I would have clearance unless pushrod isn't centered on the hole
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some might clear just fine but some might rub a tiny bit. sometimes not everything sits 100% perfectly strait in the center of the hole. you can mock them up and then clearance accordingly. Just make sure your not doing any whole opening with the head on the block.
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True that's what I've been seeing

Luck of the draw type thing lol

I've heard the same with thicker wall with 5/16... But I look at it like this if I'm spending $$ anyways mightiest well get the 3/8 .. If I have to drill a little ..that's piece of cake ..

I will post pics when I get the rods

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3/8 with tapered ends fit fine on my 243's with no modification to the head
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Originally Posted by outkast6991
3/8 with tapered ends fit fine on my 243's with no modification to the head
where did you get yours at

i was going to call Manton or Trend today if i get time during work
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Got mine from comp. can't go wrong with manton or trend though
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was yours doubled tapered or single ?

I was looking into just the straight ones.. but was also looking at the tapered one also

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Both ends tapered
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Roger That
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ID doesn't buy stiffness, only OD. I am running 3/8 double taper as well and the dyno between 5/16 and the new 3/8 double taper showed a distinct change above 6K RPM where the 5/16 were flexing.
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i agree with OD gets you stiffness no ID or wall thickness

Yes ive seen that also .. and power is carried along abit longer and doesnt drop of like the 5/16th

i seen a comparison with 11/32 to the 5/16 and there was a marginal gain but again power didnt drop off and smoothed out in the higher rpm

i dont know the big technical words but you get the idea....

would the improvements be different Straight vs Double Taper

i was going to order 7.425 length im going to run a Spec cam using EPS Lobes
..but im thinking of waiting to get the cam then measure pushrod length .. atleast thats what my gut says lol ..

Originally Posted by vettenuts
ID doesn't buy stiffness, only OD. I am running 3/8 double taper as well and the dyno between 5/16 and the new 3/8 double taper showed a distinct change above 6K RPM where the 5/16 were flexing.
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Originally Posted by zachary3
i agree with OD gets you stiffness no ID or wall thickness

Yes ive seen that also .. and power is carried along abit longer and doesnt drop of like the 5/16th

i seen a comparison with 11/32 to the 5/16 and there was a marginal gain but again power didnt drop off and smoothed out in the higher rpm

i dont know the big technical words but you get the idea....

would the improvements be different Straight vs Double Taper

i was going to order 7.425 length im going to run a Spec cam using EPS Lobes
..but im thinking of waiting to get the cam then measure pushrod length .. atleast thats what my gut says lol ..
Yes, I have more info if interested. I found the same, the power carried better with about a 6 hp increase. The difference was the curve shape in that it was smoother and carried better.

As for straight vs. double taper, there are two advantages to double taper. First, it allows a stiffer pushrod where the large straight OD won't fit. Second, the harmonics and bend shape is different than a straight pushrod.
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Originally Posted by vettenuts
Yes, I have more info if interested. I found the same, the power carried better with about a 6 hp increase. The difference was the curve shape in that it was smoother and carried better.

As for straight vs. double taper, there are two advantages to double taper. First, it allows a stiffer pushrod where the large straight OD won't fit. Second, the harmonics and bend shape is different than a straight pushrod.
Make since tho .. yea i would love more info either PM or post here or my email it doesnt matter ..i love reading about stuff like that ..

yea i have to resist the urge to buy as all have left is pushrods and other loose ends hopfully if all goes well the engine will finally be in the Iroc end the month or early aug but just order cam and its going to take a month

speaking of which i need to get pushrod length checker today
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According to Comp there .105" wall 5/16 pushrod is 17% stiffer than the .080 wall .
http://www.compperformancegroupstore...e=GEN3Pushrods


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