Nitrous Oxide Installation | Tuning | Products
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Are any lt1 guys using their Msd opti to retard timing?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-25-2010, 11:16 PM
  #1  
12 Second Club
Thread Starter
iTrader: (13)
 
sworaz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 1,142
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default Are any lt1 guys using their Msd opti to retard timing?

I'm cammed with bolt ons and have walbro in tank and 30lb injectors. I am installing a Hsw single wet shot. I'm probably going to do a 125 shot. In the past I've never messed with timing and never had problems with detonation running a 100 shot. It seems that adjusting the timing yields the best results so I'm trying to figure out which way I want to go.

I want to know who has used their msd opti to retard the timing. The msd is apparently adjustable +/- 7*. So I will either use my opti or I will go with a msd digital 6 or mallory ignition box. Just don't want to buy the box if I can just use my opti to take care of the timing.
Old 01-26-2010, 09:05 AM
  #2  
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (17)
 
buzz12586's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 731
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

I would buy the mallory 685 box. I believe you can find it for around $250 and that way when you are running on motor you still have full timing. Then when you flip the switch to arm the nitrous it will pull out however much timing you want (I think up to 15* in .2 increments)
Old 01-26-2010, 09:44 AM
  #3  
12 Second Club
Thread Starter
iTrader: (13)
 
sworaz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 1,142
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by buzz12586
I would buy the mallory 685 box. I believe you can find it for around $250 and that way when you are running on motor you still have full timing. Then when you flip the switch to arm the nitrous it will pull out however much timing you want (I think up to 15* in .2 increments)
Certainly the ideal situation.
Old 01-26-2010, 09:47 AM
  #4  
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (17)
 
buzz12586's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 731
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

On a side note I know the guy you bought your car from.
Old 01-26-2010, 09:52 AM
  #5  
12 Second Club
Thread Starter
iTrader: (13)
 
sworaz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 1,142
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by buzz12586
On a side note I know the guy you bought your car from.
Actually, I bought the car from a guy who bought the car from the guy you know lol. I bought it from him
I just read through that long AI track results thread that Mitch posted last year.
Old 01-26-2010, 09:53 AM
  #6  
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (17)
 
buzz12586's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 731
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Ha that's right. I forgot it sold again quickly.
Old 01-26-2010, 09:58 AM
  #7  
12 Second Club
Thread Starter
iTrader: (13)
 
sworaz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 1,142
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by buzz12586
Ha that's right. I forgot it sold again quickly.
Was hard to pass it up for the price I got it for
Old 01-27-2010, 12:01 PM
  #8  
9 Second Club
iTrader: (4)
 
OutlawZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Cali
Posts: 2,607
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

doesnt' msd still make a dash mounted switch that will retard timing??? kinda like a **** with increments of 1* all the way to like 20*????

I know they used to cause my buddy had one on his mustang.... seems like the easiest solution. Or buy a digital 7 box and you can do it internal to the box. Not sure about MSD 6 series ignitions though...
Old 01-27-2010, 01:01 PM
  #9  
11 Second Club
iTrader: (17)
 
AChotrod's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Chicago area
Posts: 9,896
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

MSD Digital 6+ has built in rev limiter, 2-step and timing adjustments
Old 01-27-2010, 01:10 PM
  #10  
Banned
iTrader: (22)
 
LS1 SPEED's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Schaumburg,IL
Posts: 4,957
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by AChotrod
MSD Digital 6+ has built in rev limiter, 2-step and timing adjustments
YES...better choice then the Mallory. I went through 2 of them in a year and 1 bad out of the box for a customer car.
Old 01-27-2010, 02:18 PM
  #11  
9 Second Club
iTrader: (4)
 
OutlawZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Cali
Posts: 2,607
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

I love my Digital 7....... wouldn't trade it for the world....

2 step also doesn't sound like the engine is gonna blow up when i'm on it either...
Old 01-27-2010, 03:34 PM
  #12  
11 Second Club
iTrader: (17)
 
AChotrod's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Chicago area
Posts: 9,896
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

I love the sound of my car on the 2-step. Sounds like a race car!! lol
Old 01-28-2010, 01:51 AM
  #13  
10 Second Club
iTrader: (8)
 
TwoFast4Lv's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: LT1 land...the "409" of the 90s!
Posts: 10,023
Received 6 Likes on 5 Posts

Default

That adjustment is more to dial in cam phasing then any thing else for when you degree a cam
Old 01-28-2010, 08:49 PM
  #14  
9 Second Club
iTrader: (4)
 
LSxPwrDZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Stanford, KY
Posts: 619
Received 13 Likes on 5 Posts

Default

We use a Digital 6al for my buddies 358 LT1 Impala. It works great and is very easy to adjust timing for the jug! We have the 2step rev limiter wired into the line lock for burnout control so we don't over rev the engine doing a burnout. Works pretty nice!
Old 01-29-2010, 09:41 AM
  #15  
Ray@Nitrous Outlet
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Originally Posted by LS1 SPEED
YES...better choice then the Mallory. I went through 2 of them in a year and 1 bad out of the box for a customer car.

another vote for the Digital 6 here.....have had one on my car since 2001
Old 02-01-2010, 06:02 PM
  #16  
12 Second Club
Thread Starter
iTrader: (13)
 
sworaz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 1,142
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Has anyone used the MSD 8975?

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/MS...&view=1&N=700+
Old 02-05-2010, 01:12 AM
  #17  
10 Second Club
iTrader: (26)
 
Wicked94Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Spokane, Wa
Posts: 3,725
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

programmable 6al-2 here... kinda spendy but it kinda bridges the gap between the 7 and 6 series boxes.
Old 02-05-2010, 01:14 AM
  #18  
12 Second Club
Thread Starter
iTrader: (13)
 
sworaz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 1,142
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Wicked94Z
programmable 6al-2 here... kinda spendy but it kinda bridges the gap between the 7 and 6 series boxes.
Does it have window switch capability?
Old 02-07-2010, 09:13 PM
  #19  
10 Second Club
iTrader: (26)
 
Wicked94Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Spokane, Wa
Posts: 3,725
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

don't know i have an fjo controller... msd has a website ya know



Quick Reply: Are any lt1 guys using their Msd opti to retard timing?



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:06 PM.