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Old 06-12-2012, 02:19 PM
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Thumbs up ZL1 Wins overall vs new GT500

Just thought I'd post up the link to the first ZL1 vs GT500 magazine comparo. Looks like even though the GT500 was 4 tenths quicker to 60mph and 5/10ths quicker in the quarter mile, the ZL1 killed it on the road course and twisties not to mention ride quality and traction. Basically do a little pulley swap to match the GT500's psi and the $6000 cheaper Camaro wins in every category. very nice.

http://www.insideline.com/chevrolet/...ison-test.html
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and also the automatic version is 1 tenth quicker so that narrows the gap even more lol
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Where are all the nuevo Ford nutswingers who are all over the other threads saying how bad Chevy f'd up? crickets...
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I don't think anyone ever questioned the ZL1 would handle.

I want to see them run on a track.

That 12.7 @ 114mph that Inside the Line ran in the ZL1 was pretty embarrassing though.
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Based on the times, it looks like they had some pretty average/below-average drivers testing these cars.

Still want to see more comparisons, but it is nice that they have begun.
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This trend will continue.
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Originally Posted by Siciliano15
Just thought I'd post up the link to the first ZL1 vs GT500 magazine comparo. Looks like even though the GT500 was 4 tenths quicker to 60mph and 5/10ths quicker in the quarter mile, the ZL1 killed it on the road course and twisties not to mention ride quality and traction. Basically do a little pulley swap to match the GT500's psi and the $6000 cheaper Camaro wins in every category. very nice.

http://www.insideline.com/chevrolet/...ison-test.html
Where did they post the road course numbers? I skimmed through twice now and didn't see anything mentioning the ZL1 actually beats the GT500 around a track, only that it has a slight advantage in the slalom and skid pad, 0.05g and 1.7 mph, while taking 110ft to stop vs 109ft in the GT500. To me it seems like the ZL1 is going to be seeing taillights on anything other than an autocross course.
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Yea I would like to see them run at a track against each other.


And ditto on driver/s.
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Originally Posted by gocartone
Where did they post the road course numbers? I skimmed through twice now and didn't see anything mentioning the ZL1 actually beats the GT500 around a track, only that it has a slight advantage in the slalom and skid pad, 0.05g and 1.7 mph, while taking 110ft to stop vs 109ft in the GT500. To me it seems like the ZL1 is going to be seeing taillights on anything other than an autocross course.
Maybe I misread, but it seems they were saying completely the opposite...that the only category in which the GT500 would beat the ZL1 was in straight-line performance. The ZL1 appeared to be better in every other aspect and just a better all-around vehicle.
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Originally Posted by 99FRC
Maybe I misread, but it seems they were saying completely the opposite...that the only category in which the GT500 would beat the ZL1 was in straight-line performance. The ZL1 appeared to be better in every other aspect and just a better all-around vehicle.
What he is saying is that they did not take the cars to a track and run them. It would like them saying the ZL1 was faster at the drag strip but not providing times or even taking the cars to a track.

And the GT500 did better in braking and anything straight line acceleration related.
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Originally Posted by 99FRC
Maybe I misread, but it seems they were saying completely the opposite...that the only category in which the GT500 would beat the ZL1 was in straight-line performance. The ZL1 appeared to be better in every other aspect and just a better all-around vehicle.
Saying is totally different than proving, and below average drivers saying the easier to drive car is faster around a track means nothing to me. A bad driver is going to be faster around a track in a slower and easier to drive car than they are a fast and violent one. Based on the actual data they have the ZL1 would only have an advantage on a short road course or one with no straightaways.
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I'm fine with the ZL1 losing the straight but winning the twisties.

Afterall with these type of money I'd wanna all around car not just a 0-60 car.

And many might come and say "well 99% will never use it in the twisties", it's not about that. It's about the fact that these cars are going against world class cars and they NEED to handle! So I'm happy for the ZL1! The Corvette folks know what I'm talking about.

And it seems like they had some shitty drivers...
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Originally Posted by gocartone
Saying is totally different than proving, and below average drivers saying the easier to drive car is faster around a track means nothing to me. A bad driver is going to be faster around a track in a slower and easier to drive car than they are a fast and violent one. Based on the actual data they have the ZL1 would only have an advantage on a short road course or one with no straightaways.
Exactly. The ZL1 will put the smack down on the GT500 if the track is short and tight with no straightaways, but on the same track a Miata will give the ZL1 fits.
Here is the video.
[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Viwp4RuwuYw [/YOUTUBE]
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Originally Posted by gocartone
Saying is totally different than proving, and below average drivers saying the easier to drive car is faster around a track means nothing to me. A bad driver is going to be faster around a track in a slower and easier to drive car than they are a fast and violent one. Based on the actual data they have the ZL1 would only have an advantage on a short road course or one with no straightaways.
I agree with most of this but at the same most of the drivers that buy these cars aren't pro drivers so I think it's a good point to prove. The nice part is there's gonna be alot of testing between these two for a longtime to come so get ready for the poo flinging because there's gonna be alot of peolpe that are going to argue the facts presented to them.
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Originally Posted by Sax1031
I don't think anyone ever questioned the ZL1 would handle.

I want to see them run on a track.

That 12.7 @ 114mph that Inside the Line ran in the ZL1 was pretty embarrassing though.
Originally Posted by Sax1031
What he is saying is that they did not take the cars to a track and run them. It would like them saying the ZL1 was faster at the drag strip but not providing times or even taking the cars to a track.

And the GT500 did better in braking and anything straight line acceleration related.
i saw a 12.4 at 116. did i miss something?


and a gt500 did stop better from 60-0. by one foot.
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Originally Posted by 99FRC


Where are all the nuevo Ford nutswingers who are all over the other threads saying how bad Chevy f'd up? crickets...


to say GM didnt do a great job with this car is nonsense.


theres nothing for them to be embarrassed about. thats like saying ford should be embarrassed because a heavier car handles better.
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Originally Posted by 99FRC


Where are all the nuevo Ford nutswingers who are all over the other threads saying how bad Chevy f'd up? crickets...
i saw more chevy guys saying that chevy fucked up the zl1, than i did ford guys.
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Originally Posted by Z Fury
Based on the times, it looks like they had some pretty average/below-average drivers testing these cars.

Still want to see more comparisons, but it is nice that they have begun.
downright shitty drivers is more like it. in BOTH cars.
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Originally Posted by gocartone
Saying is totally different than proving, and below average drivers saying the easier to drive car is faster around a track means nothing to me. A bad driver is going to be faster around a track in a slower and easier to drive car than they are a fast and violent one. Based on the actual data they have the ZL1 would only have an advantage on a short road course or one with no straightaways.
bolded...this is what i keep saying.
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Originally Posted by 1ltcap
i saw more chevy guys saying that chevy fucked up the zl1, than i did ford guys.
actually thats true.

they also need to quiet down lol.


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