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Old Jan 23, 2009 | 07:28 PM
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IM using the stock T42 tune from a 2007 Silverado 4wd LH6 E38. Upshifts are great. Also, when I come to a stop it clunks and drops into 1st, so the downshifts are delayed. There is no kickdown 4-3, 3-2 or 2-1.

I tried to lower the downshift mph tables with EFI Live-no effect.

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Suggest checking the TPS for proper function .
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Interesting, in the PID's the T42 only validates "Accelerator Effective Position" and reads 0% at 0 throttle (ETC of coarse).

On the other hand the E 38 only validates "Absolute Throttle Position" and never reads below 20%, even KOEO.

I checked the signals from the APP and they appear to be within range and no Synch APP sensor codes exist.

Is this normal? BTW Thanks for the fast reply.
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Unfortunately as I have stated before I am not a tuner, However I do know the TPS can be bad and not set a code as long as its within its functional range. and that kickdown is very dependent on the TPS signal
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Questions:
- does the scantool show the correct vehicle speed...?
- does the scantool show the correct throttle position...?
- is each downshift table at least 5 mph below the corresponding upshift table...?

The trans controller may be trying to use a different TP than what the engine controller is sending it... I don't know how you would configure/match them up other than finding engine/trans controllers/calibrations that were originally paired together.
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Old Jan 23, 2009 | 08:49 PM
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On t42 controllers the transmission uses effective pedal position for its shift points so if it continually reads 0 you have a controls issue.
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Questions:
- does the scantool show the correct vehicle speed...?
- does the scantool show the correct throttle position...?
- is each downshift table at least 5 mph below the corresponding upshift table...?


Yes the scantool reads VSS correctly in both the ECM and TCM, I checked with GPS.

I don't know if the TP is correct. In the scantool the TCM and ECM read different values. The ECM never reads below 20%.

The trans controller may be trying to use a different TP than what the engine controller is sending it... I don't know how you would configure/match them up other than finding engine/trans controllers/calibrations that were originally paired together

The T42, E38, LH6, 4L65e and thier calibrations are all from the same vehicle.


Joecar I read your informative Trans Tuning Guide, and no, there does not appear to be a 5mph difference in upshift vs. downshift; but this was the stock tune?

tptransmission the TP value is not always 0, it starts at 0 unlike the ECM
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Originally Posted by VEGASROBBI
Questions:
- does the scantool show the correct vehicle speed...?
- does the scantool show the correct throttle position...?
- is each downshift table at least 5 mph below the corresponding upshift table...?


Yes the scantool reads VSS correctly in both the ECM and TCM, I checked with GPS.

I don't know if the TP is correct. In the scantool the TCM and ECM read different values. The ECM never reads below 20%.

The trans controller may be trying to use a different TP than what the engine controller is sending it... I don't know how you would configure/match them up other than finding engine/trans controllers/calibrations that were originally paired together

The T42, E38, LH6, 4L65e and thier calibrations are all from the same vehicle.


Joecar I read your informative Trans Tuning Guide, and no, there does not appear to be a 5mph difference in upshift vs. downshift; but this was the stock tune?

tptransmission the TP value is not always 0, it starts at 0 unlike the ECM
That is normally the signal the transmission uses for shift pattern. The ecm has a few parameters for throttle such as blade angle etc. it may never show zero depending on which one it is.
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Thanks for the replies. I believe the kickdown and downshifts were inhibited because my ECM had a 4WD tune and was not recieving a valid 4 lo signal. I went to a 2WD tune and all is working.
Were working on getting a valid 4 lo signal to the E38 so we can run the 4WD tune, Thanks Robbie.
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