Vig 2800 or Vig 3200 with 2.73 gears?
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Hello Fellow Members,
I am new to this board and to LS-1s. I have a 98' TA with 2.73s I have narrowed my choice on converters to a Vig 2800 or 3200. I use this car as my daily driver and i need some input on how it works with other 98/99s with the 2.73s. I only wanted to buy once as well as the install. I have a SLP Lid and KN/free mods. I only run 8.94s@81 with 2.11s 60s and 13.72@102. What have some of you all gained with similar mods with 2.73s and 2800 or 3200 stall. Should i get the Vig 2800 or 3200?
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I am new to this board and to LS-1s. I have a 98' TA with 2.73s I have narrowed my choice on converters to a Vig 2800 or 3200. I use this car as my daily driver and i need some input on how it works with other 98/99s with the 2.73s. I only wanted to buy once as well as the install. I have a SLP Lid and KN/free mods. I only run 8.94s@81 with 2.11s 60s and 13.72@102. What have some of you all gained with similar mods with 2.73s and 2800 or 3200 stall. Should i get the Vig 2800 or 3200?
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Thanks for the input, i noticed that some converters flash/stall at a higher rpm then the manufacturers advertised stall. Do i need to specify that i want a tight 3200 or is that how the converters just work? What about the STRs what will work the best for the 2.73 set up? I have read a lot of the previous posts and there is so much information about different builds and designs. I just want a converter that will be as efficient as possible for a daily driver.
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The lower the STR the tighter it will be but and the softer it will launch, STR is not a big factor when racing from a roll etc. If you are looking for a converter that will be as efficient as possible you should check out Yank, they make some of the most if not the most efficient converters in the market. I would STRONGLY recommend going higher than a 3500 stall even with your 2.73s even though this will be a fairly loose setup you will wish you would of went larger in the future if you go with something below a 3500 stall. Good Luck
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Hi OctaneZ28,
How does your car feel when you take off when driving normal , like in stop and go traffic. Also is traction an issue with street tires. What was your 1/8 mile et and mph with the low 12 pass. Sorry for all the questions but this converter thing is new to me. My buick has a 2200 stock D-5 in it so and that feels normal to me. I am excited about what to expect.
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How does your car feel when you take off when driving normal , like in stop and go traffic. Also is traction an issue with street tires. What was your 1/8 mile et and mph with the low 12 pass. Sorry for all the questions but this converter thing is new to me. My buick has a 2200 stock D-5 in it so and that feels normal to me. I am excited about what to expect.
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2.73's suck
i went for 3.42's will be putting them in soon, since in the city , well its not that big of a deal.
i'll trade the mpg or two for a tighter verter since city driving is annoying enough as it is.
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i'll trade the mpg or two for a tighter verter since city driving is annoying enough as it is.
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The vig 2800 is really a tight 3200 so if that is what you really want, get it. The Vig 3200 is more like putting a 3600 - 3800 stall in the car. Either converter will knock a minimum of .5 off your 1/4 mile time.
You can probably get .7 - .8 with the 3200 and drag radials. If you are staying with the stock tires, the 2800 will be adequate.
You can probably get .7 - .8 with the 3200 and drag radials. If you are staying with the stock tires, the 2800 will be adequate.
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Thanks for the replys.
Yeah i know the 2.73s are not the best but some members are going very fast with them. I wanted to have a 12sec street daily driver and the converter swap seems to be the best dollar spent mod on getting there. Seems like a good set of long tubes and converter are getting these cars into the mid to low 12 sec ranges. These LS-1s really repsond well to changes.
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PS. I will be upgrading the LTs after the converter
Yeah i know the 2.73s are not the best but some members are going very fast with them. I wanted to have a 12sec street daily driver and the converter swap seems to be the best dollar spent mod on getting there. Seems like a good set of long tubes and converter are getting these cars into the mid to low 12 sec ranges. These LS-1s really repsond well to changes.
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PS. I will be upgrading the LTs after the converter
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You can go fast with 2.73's. As far as the converter goes. I had a Yank SS3600 in mine. It felt pretty tight. Even with the gears. I then went to a TCS 4200. Very loose but I am going to swap gears in the near future so no big deal.I don't have any experiance with Vig converters but no matter what you get you will probably want bigger. Even with the 4200 I got used to it.
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Originally Posted by Spooln
Hi OctaneZ28,
How does your car feel when you take off when driving normal , like in stop and go traffic. Also is traction an issue with street tires. What was your 1/8 mile et and mph with the low 12 pass. Sorry for all the questions but this converter thing is new to me. My buick has a 2200 stock D-5 in it so and that feels normal to me. I am excited about what to expect.
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How does your car feel when you take off when driving normal , like in stop and go traffic. Also is traction an issue with street tires. What was your 1/8 mile et and mph with the low 12 pass. Sorry for all the questions but this converter thing is new to me. My buick has a 2200 stock D-5 in it so and that feels normal to me. I am excited about what to expect.
Thanks
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Traction becomes an issue with pretty much any street tire when you have a converter, but I've been running Nitto Drag Radials on the street, and it's been pretty good.
My 1/8th mile was 7.69 @ 89mph.
With the Vig3200 and TransGo shift kit, I went from 12.866 to 12.144. So a .722 improvement in the 1.4 mile.
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I plan on eventually changing to 3.42 or 3.73 gears.
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Good info, Im getting my vig 3200 installed on saturday along with a custom shift kit. I got an lt-1 though so I dont know how much difference there is. It seems like alot of this info probably pertains to me too.
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I too have the 273's (for now)! Will be upgrading to 323's as mine is a daily driver. I agree with the others as the 3200 would be very loose. Almost "bucking" from light to light....
not good @ all. Now, 323's with the Yank SS3500..... now that's a combo!!
Good luck. i have put alot of thought/ research into this as well..... Good luck.
not good @ all. Now, 323's with the Yank SS3500..... now that's a combo!!
Good luck. i have put alot of thought/ research into this as well..... Good luck.
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I have a Vig 3200 with 2.73 gears and its loose but not bad. I do regret not getting a shift kit to get it a little tigher, but I might just install one myself. OctaneZ pretty much gave the best desription on how it drives on the street.
I don't have stock times to compare with before or after with the converter. But my times are 13.1's (see sig). I wasen't too happy with those times, but after looking at the factors I think its a good time. The track wasen't preped all that good (People with DR's had probs), my car is dropped 2inchs and has a pretty tight autocross feel. And then finally I ran with a full stereo system and my chrome 18's on all fours. Nitto's on some 16's and little weight reduction I should be in the mid-lower 12's since my traction on those 18's was horrible (I know PSJ can vouch for that
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I don't have stock times to compare with before or after with the converter. But my times are 13.1's (see sig). I wasen't too happy with those times, but after looking at the factors I think its a good time. The track wasen't preped all that good (People with DR's had probs), my car is dropped 2inchs and has a pretty tight autocross feel. And then finally I ran with a full stereo system and my chrome 18's on all fours. Nitto's on some 16's and little weight reduction I should be in the mid-lower 12's since my traction on those 18's was horrible (I know PSJ can vouch for that
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Hello Members,
Thank you so much for the great response. These posts really give me an idea of what to type of drivability to look for with the Vig 3200. Looks like a gain of .5 to .8 ET in the 1/4 with the 2.73s. Dollar for dollar the converter is a very good mod. I guess the mods that go with the converter would be a good tranny cooler and shift kit. Also does it matter much if the converter is a (1) single disk or (3) multi disk?
Thanks Tom
Thank you so much for the great response. These posts really give me an idea of what to type of drivability to look for with the Vig 3200. Looks like a gain of .5 to .8 ET in the 1/4 with the 2.73s. Dollar for dollar the converter is a very good mod. I guess the mods that go with the converter would be a good tranny cooler and shift kit. Also does it matter much if the converter is a (1) single disk or (3) multi disk?
Thanks Tom
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I have a 3800 stall from TCS. And do I like it! On a street tire, pulling a 1.9 60' my turned 12.84's all day long. The gears are 2.73's. And now to date I have cut 1.66 60'.
In terms of being loose, I can gently rev the gas between 30-45ish mph while driving down the road without adding to my forward speed. If that is the idea of "loose", hell that's not bad at all. Idles around 530rpms in gear. Like stated above, tap the gas at the light and you have instant smoke. Nitto DR's are a great help on the street.
So to help with my opinion, the higher stall is a gonna make the smile!
In terms of being loose, I can gently rev the gas between 30-45ish mph while driving down the road without adding to my forward speed. If that is the idea of "loose", hell that's not bad at all. Idles around 530rpms in gear. Like stated above, tap the gas at the light and you have instant smoke. Nitto DR's are a great help on the street.
So to help with my opinion, the higher stall is a gonna make the smile!