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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 01:10 PM
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Default B&M or Hayden cooler?

Thats the question or does it make no difference.

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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 01:18 PM
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I have a Hayden. Tubes is tubes, fins is fins, more
is better.

I picked up a pair of the "Perma-Cool" frame-rail types
(long and skinny, with mounting feet) which I plan to
use for a different install scheme, get the cooler off
the condenser / radiator "stack" so it's less obstructed.
They have less area than the max-size brick types
though.
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Old Nov 27, 2004 | 11:47 AM
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look below.
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Old Nov 27, 2004 | 12:51 PM
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I bought the perma-cool frame rail that JImmy describes and plan to do the install documented in this thread:
https://ls1tech.com/forums/automatic-transmission/179082-alternative-tranny-cooler.html.
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Old Nov 27, 2004 | 01:14 PM
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We use the B&M cooler in our cars.
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Old Nov 27, 2004 | 07:24 PM
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I use a B&M cooler and average 115 to 135* trans temps with my converter. Low speed cooling fans are almost always on which keeps airflowing through the cooler at at all times.
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Old Nov 27, 2004 | 07:36 PM
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I too use the B&M 24K.
Works grewat with my SY3500 & deep pan.
Avg. approx. 150-170 deg.
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Old Nov 27, 2004 | 08:16 PM
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I installed the B&M using the Dope Method due to having Cold Air Induction. It keeps the trans temp below 180 all the time.

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b&m here- dope style install. not sure on the exact temps, but the trans hasn't died yet so the b&m is doing it's job.
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Old Nov 28, 2004 | 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by RevGTO
I bought the perma-cool frame rail that JImmy describes and plan to do the install documented in this thread:
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=179082.
that style of cooler won't work for guys that have the ftra or ssra. b&m here, no problems.
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Old Nov 28, 2004 | 06:29 AM
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I also have a B&M but it does not matter as jimmy blue said. Its only a heat sink
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Old Nov 28, 2004 | 08:31 AM
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plate type coolers such as the B&M supercooler are a better choice then the tube and fin. They generally are more efficent for a given square area and flow less when cold. Thus they allow the tranny to come up to operating temp before providing their full cooling capacity. That is a consideration if you live in the northern half of the U.S.
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Old Nov 28, 2004 | 10:31 AM
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Went with the B&M 24000 GVW on my newly built 4L60e w/ TCI SF3000.

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Old Nov 28, 2004 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Ragtop 99
plate type coolers such as the B&M supercooler are a better choice then the tube and fin. They generally are more efficent for a given square area and flow less when cold. Thus they allow the tranny to come up to operating temp before providing their full cooling capacity. That is a consideration if you live in the northern half of the U.S.
But the benefit is the ability to mount it right in the heart of the airstream without stacking it on to the condenser - cooling shoud be excellent. But you may have a point about getting up to operating temp slowly.
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 07:48 PM
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Rev: I'm sure I get your point. You can mount a plate type cooler any place that a tube & fin cooler mounts. The plate cooler will be more efficent.

The exception is a frame rail cooler which is a different shape and designed to be mounted in a different location. Capacitywise, they are fine for smaller converters (no more than 3500) as the 24" is rated for 15,000lbs GVW. Even though it is rated for 15000 GVW, I notice that it has tube length than a typical fin type cooler of similar rating. A frame rail cooler and a good deep pan would work well for those that do not want to block the radiator or use the "Dope" method of mounting.
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B&M here, no issues. It does its job well.
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b&M 24K
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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 02:15 PM
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i use a Hayden. Normal mounting style. Works fine, since tranny hasnt died since I installed it. Before, I could kill the 4l60e in a week with a stall and 4.10s.

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This is a pic from when I Installed my B&M back in July of 2004...

Been on my car for two years now on my daily driver with no problems.
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Old Jul 18, 2006 | 10:16 PM
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What are the trans temps supposed to average?? I have a 4L65/ Yank PT 4K with a truck pan and b&m 24k cooler... my mech. gauge usually reads 150ish during street/ traffic driving. Let me know, thanks.
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