Oh man, John can definately hook that up...that could be my old converter, of course with your choice of STR for your tire selection. His 4k in my car with NA was alright, a little loose on the street (would fry the tires from a city cruising speed roll) but at the track it rev'd and hit hard. GL

Charlie

 

Let me be the first to congrad you. You are 100% correct. None of them are that big. Seriously, the biggest ones might put 30 converters out the door on a god-blessed day!!!!!

When, I saw that lady with the label "Fuddle Business Manager" I had to laugh my *** off. (No offense shes the one who PM'ed me bitching me out so I will mention it.) NO REMANUFACTURER whether it be Yank PI TCI Art Car rusty out in AZ whatever they don't see a large hierarchy of managers. That's just plain stupid when you have less than 50 people working for you.

Anyways, that is the thing. These place ARE so small. They don't have ASM lines. They know when they build something wrong and send it out anyways. They can't call up foundries and order large amounts of parts. They don't have multi-million dollar machinery; usually. All they can do is engineer the parts and subcontract to suppliers, recieve the parts, and weld. The more experience the builder has the better. Botton line there. On top of that only a couple of companies have robotic welders. Have you guys seen the price tags on them?? You guys know which companies have them. That is why you want to get someone who knows what he is doing, been in the biz for a long time, and has the capital and knowledge to order the custom parts. If the guy you ordered from isn't basically rich than he is getting junk yard parts and throwing them together. There is no magic way to build a similar quality converter for cheaper when these companies order in small quanities. Sorry guys your cheaper converters are inferior! END OF STORY. That's all I ever wanted to say. Sorry, I picked out someone to use for an example. I should have kept it general.

I just saw the synopsis on Fuddle Website which stated that other converter companies are ripping you off and "getting fat on your wallet." I got mad because in reality you just can't make them for cheaper. You can't. I just sounded like he was trying to sucker people in by playing to the working man.

I am sorry guys. I apoligize if I said something to rain on your parade. Just live like you want to.

 

PS. Please stop PM'ing me so I don't have to keep posting.

 

eh, thats really for the track/street to decide.

and ive had no problems and nothing but success with my fuddle in the 6 months or so ive had it in. but i had a big problem with a converter from a
"large" company within a few hundred miles with my 72 cheyenne with a freshly built th-350. ended up costing me an arm and a leg. and a buddy with an fbody had a similar problem with same company. if this converter keeps treating me right john has a customer for life

 

Well Im going to try him out on my 4l80 setup. I dont mind using the little guy. Sometimes big companies need to remember how they started there business. Usually a one man operation gets overloaded and not everyone is satisfied. But it is impossible to make everyone happy.

 

I understand with what 2002_... is saying. Only arguement there, and it may not be valid in this particular point, is there is always a way to save money that can provide an equal or superior product. If you buy in bulk, if you subcontract, say to Howards TC who in turn is also sub'd out to other companies so he may get the pricing on front covers down A LOT, etc...then it is possible. The only other arguement, is, how can someone become LARGE, with all that experience etc, without first starting out small? Thats a catch 22, I know, and it sucks. Sometimes a company puts a product out that the end user actually resorts to doing some R&D for them, unknowingly, like the guys that jumped the gun and got the Cog Setup for an ATI Fbody setup...they did the R&D for ATI. Anyway..points are beat to death.
I respect your opinion and the info you shared, here and pm, and is food for thought. I hope you respect my opinion as well. If John keeps up with his product, service, warranty etc..he may become the next LARGE company!

 

I can see the point about the "big companies". Yeah they have more money/resources and many times can put out a better product. It makes sense.

I also see the other side. I am still running a TCS 4200 converter. Some may or may not remember Derek from TCS. I know he sold a few converters on here. This was a small company that put out (what I believe to be) a good converter. It's too bad his company ended like it did. Hawkn01 is still #3 stock on the stock internal list running the same converter. Took me to 11.76 SI and I'll run it til it quits.

That converter is also the one you see bashed on Yank's site. I guess you can't please every one. Lol!

 

Are the fuddle performance line restalled/ refurbed stockers? That would support the small company/ low price point. I saw they were mass buying used stockers in the WTB forum a while back.

 

The Performance one looked like standard shell but
10" size (not our LS1 stocker). My High Performance
Street one has a billet front. I have no idea what they
wanted stock cores for. Maybe some of the guts are
reusable, or maybe they get core charges and can
turn in any old greasy iron just like I do, and keep the
good scrap

 

The stock cores were actually for our sibling company, who does stock rebuilds, not us. If anyone got the sheets with their converter asking for cores, you saw that it was a totally different company name.

And 2006..., I was not "bitching" you out. I just asked why you disliked us so much when we have never had any dealings with you at all. I was actually trying to help you out to see if I could resolve your issues.

 

I've purchased from Fuddle before all the bashing started and will purchase from them again in the future when I buy my next stall.

I've conversed with Fuddle about all the bashing and they could provide answers for me for everything. I'd agree that the main people with problems are isolated and seem to have misinformation at times.

 

What i'm most interested in hearing is about people with higher horsepower cars trying these converters out. Based on my discussion with John, feed back on their warranty, John's confidence in the converter working in my situation, and the guy who posted on the first page running big power with one, I decided to try one on my car which i'm hoping for 9 second n/a times and 8 second nitrous times.

Besides the turbo vette i'm speaking of, does anyone know of anyone else running the Fuddle verter in a high hp app like the vette or something similar? I'll have first hand knowledge of the success in high hp apps soon enough, but am always interested in hearing from others who run sub 11 sub 10 second et's

I definately know there is tons of people who "THINK" it won't work but no one with any hard evidence that it won't it seems.

 

i will be soon...like 2 weeks

 

John was a littl tough getting through to on the phone, but once i got him, he was great. I had my converter in a week and it was 450 shipped. Plus it is a great product and i would do it again.

 

Edawg has a fuddle in his 4l80e with a Futral built 6.0 and a t76 turbo in a 4500lb truck, It dynoed well over 600rwhp with 4.10 gears and big *** 22" wheels. He has beat on the truck for about 3k miles with no sign of the convertor failing. My combo will be together in about a month and I will let you know.

 

...... because a stock brazed converter could hold that?

 

you must be the "quality control manager" at fuddle huh?

do you have any posts that are NOT related to this company? do you really care this much for what is so rightious in this internet world?

 

It sounds like you feel sorry for him. That ****** burned me and others big time. He took my money and never sent the converter. I remember talking to him on the phone and especially how he went out of his way to say TCS wasn't going anywhere because it's a "christian-based" company that always took care of his customers. 2 weeks after that he disappeared. Even the Attorney General couldn't find him. Lesson learned? If it's too good to be true, then it's too good to be true and don't believe it.

 

Have you ever seen a stock 4l80e converter? I have one sitting here...73#!!!

 

Yes, that's the kind of input i'm looking for! Thanks a bunch!