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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 08:45 PM
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I think you should get Pacesetter headers and ORY instead of gears. You will see more improvement in your ET and MPG than with a gear swap and spend about the same amount of money. But, with either mod, after your stall, you will HAVE to get some good tires. your 2.73's will make your car feel really loose with that stall, but investing all of that money into a 10 bolt is just stupid. wait till it breaks, then spend that gear money you would have spent on that 10 bolt on a 12 bolt with 3.42's or 3.73's.
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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 08:49 PM
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can someone explain the "loose" and "tight" feeling?
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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 08:52 PM
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you have a 3000 stall with 2.73's, does your car feel loose?
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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Sunset'01Z
you have a 3000 stall with 2.73's, does your car feel loose?
I seriously doubt it, as it takes 3500+ to start feeling "loose" in my opinion, but that's all subjective though.
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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ChocoTaco369
lol this argument is bullshit. if you're too much of a nancy boy to drive around with the looseness of a stall, maybe you shouldn't be modding your car. aftermarket parts are nearly always more uncomfortable than OEM parts. aftermarket rears/gears howl and whine, poly mounts can make things vibrate uncomfortably, aftermarket exhaust systems can make things potentially unbearable for loud trips...
I was talking about quickness not comfort dumbass. If you want comfort, buy a honda.

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i'm sure this is an already stalled auto right?
Yes it was (2400 stall though, so that wasn't too much of it), it was a head/cam car though, and those shitty gears were killing his powerband.

And just to add, despite the amount of info you have posted in this thread, you have still not come close to making yourself look educated about this subject.
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Old Jul 12, 2006 | 01:16 AM
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like i said... get the headers and y pipe.... power and sound.... cant do that with gears
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Old Jul 12, 2006 | 09:17 AM
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This is getting really funny lol, I dont consider a 300+ v8 a daily driver. Its not made for gas mileage. I wanted better gas mileage, comfort, and streetability.. so I bought an Acura TSX!!! The camaro is for power, its supposed to be loud and fast. I just added LT paces, Off road Y, 3800 Vig stall and 3.73motive gears. I had 2.73 before, they sucked. I couldnt launch for **** in the quarter, with a 2.33 60' foot i still ran 13.3. The stall and gear combo is awesome and the exhuast sound is amazing and I I will be netting a pretty good et gain. If you care about gas sure stick with 2.73s, but they are not going to perform better than 3.73s lol.
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Old Jul 12, 2006 | 09:58 AM
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Did you get that 60' after the converter or still with the stock one? Sounded like you was still spinning with 2.73s!!
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i ran a 12.96 with a 2.13 60'...on street tires car was skating down the track.
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Old Jul 12, 2006 | 12:25 PM
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i ran that on Nitto drag radials, stock stall, 2.73 gears
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Old Jul 12, 2006 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by infinitebird
I was talking about quickness not comfort dumbass. If you want comfort, buy a honda.


Yes it was (2400 stall though, so that wasn't too much of it), it was a head/cam car though, and those shitty gears were killing his powerband.

And just to add, despite the amount of info you have posted in this thread, you have still not come close to making yourself look educated about this subject.
mmm, indeed. everyone's hard to convince when they're in denial of the hundreds of dollars they wasted. i really don't give two ***** about what you have to say about anything. and for what it's worth, my car is extremely comfortable to drive. i find it far more comfortable than most 4 door cars at that - that goes for the 2 different f-bodies i've owned over the past 3 years. i bought my car for many reasons - look, feel, comfort, speed, sound...i could go on and on. i love it when people use the "if you wanted XXX, you shoulda bough a YYY" agrument. fill in X's with words like comfort, fuel economy, auto-xing, fill in Y's with whatever cars fit the X's description. it's an argument of desparation more than anything. like i said, for a grand, there are better mods out there. i've yet to see ANYONE refuting my claim meaning i have never been proved wrong. if you can't PROVE that gears are the BEST mod for $1000, you have lost the argument since "gears are not the best mod for the money" has been my SOLE argument the whole time. headers, as suggested, would be a far better mod.

if you took even 5 minutes to review my posts, you'll see i listed numerous times that if you're set on a gear swap, get a new rear. a new rear is a worthwhile mod. if you want different gears, get them in the new rear. this shows that i am not an anti-gear swap man. i am an "anti-gear swap on a 10-bolt that will likely break making the $$$ wasted to go 1-2 tenths faster in the quarter and lose mpg in the process" man. starting to understand yet?
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Originally Posted by StxVenomz28
i ran that on Nitto drag radials, stock stall, 2.73 gears

Ouch, you should at least have gotten a 1.8-1.9 60' with the nittos on the stock stall.
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Old Jul 12, 2006 | 03:16 PM
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i say 3.73 gears are a great mod and mine will be in the 19th .... a stall is also a great choice (prolly the better of the two) but 99% of people driving v8 fbodys will take speed over economy anyday of the week (i know i do).....

and for the arguemet over tenths dropped to money spent......the single best mod is a 150+ shot ...and this will not effect everyday driving..and if u spray responsibly there is very little to no engine wear.....
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Old Jul 12, 2006 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ChocoTaco369
mmm, indeed. everyone's hard to convince when they're in denial of the hundreds of dollars they wasted. i really don't give two ***** about what you have to say about anything. and for what it's worth, my car is extremely comfortable to drive. i find it far more comfortable than most 4 door cars at that - that goes for the 2 different f-bodies i've owned over the past 3 years. i bought my car for many reasons - look, feel, comfort, speed, sound...i could go on and on. i love it when people use the "if you wanted XXX, you shoulda bough a YYY" agrument. fill in X's with words like comfort, fuel economy, auto-xing, fill in Y's with whatever cars fit the X's description. it's an argument of desparation more than anything. like i said, for a grand, there are better mods out there. i've yet to see ANYONE refuting my claim meaning i have never been proved wrong. if you can't PROVE that gears are the BEST mod for $1000, you have lost the argument since "gears are not the best mod for the money" has been my SOLE argument the whole time. headers, as suggested, would be a far better mod.

if you took even 5 minutes to review my posts, you'll see i listed numerous times that if you're set on a gear swap, get a new rear. a new rear is a worthwhile mod. if you want different gears, get them in the new rear. this shows that i am not an anti-gear swap man. i am an "anti-gear swap on a 10-bolt that will likely break making the $$$ wasted to go 1-2 tenths faster in the quarter and lose mpg in the process" man. starting to understand yet?
an argument of desperation It's called the truth buddy. If you're that concerned with gas mileage to where you could not even fathom putting up with losing a few mph to gain some ET then these are hardly the cars for you.

And fwiw, I've got 2.73's, I get between 27 and 30 mpg on the highway and I can't ******* wait until I can get rid of them, they make the car feel sluggish as ****. Try getting in a car with a stall, gears, cam, etc. and then getting back in your 2.73 car w/ a lid and exhaust, it seriously feels like you're driving a Geo Metro. That's just my personal experience anyway.

Monica knows what she's talking about. She has real world experience and you don't (it at least seems that way). You say you've had 2 f-bodies in the past 2 years and that you are all knowledgeable, etc. yet the only thing I see listed is a V6 and your current car (w/ a lid and exhaust), those hardly qualify you as an expert. That's cool if you have an opinion, but you are trying to pass your opinion off as personal knowledge and that can be rather misleading. I would hardly call LT's and a catback a "winning combo."

To the original poster...I think that 3.73's would be a great compliment to your car and yes they are definitely worth it.
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Old Jul 12, 2006 | 03:58 PM
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that still doesn't explain what feels loose and what feels tight.....
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Originally Posted by GoFast908Z
that still doesn't explain what feels loose and what feels tight.....

im not even gonna comment ..... i think this quote may go in my sig
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Old Jul 12, 2006 | 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by GoFast908Z
that still doesn't explain what feels loose and what feels tight.....

You just gotta try it yourself.... but i think tighter always feels better than loose...lol
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Old Jul 12, 2006 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by GoFast908Z
that still doesn't explain what feels loose and what feels tight.....
I'm trying to think of a way to word it.

A loose converter car seems like it takes a long time to "go" from a stop (not at the track, but just like from a stoplight or something). It feels sluggish, I guess, it takes more gas to get the car to accelerate. Usually the higher the stall the looser the car feels. That's why putting a steeper gear in the rear end helps it feel tighter, the steeper gears help the car get up to speed quicker.

That's my very girly explanation. I'm sure someone else could give a more technical explanation.
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Old Jul 12, 2006 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by presto_z
im not even gonna comment ..... i think this quote may go in my sig

i knew someone was gonna go there.


The bottom line is that I don't understand the difference (in relation to converters) as i have no basis for comparison. Can someone please explain?
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Old Jul 12, 2006 | 04:38 PM
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ok....loose is compared to slowly releasing the clutch when taking off(in a manual obviously)....the rpms rise but doesnt fully engage........

well thats how i would describe it
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