Flexplates: GM (OEM) vs. TCI vs. Madman
#1
Flexplates: GM (OEM) vs. TCI vs. Madman
Advantages/disadvantages of/between the 3? Besides prices and TCI/Madman being SFI approved, what differs them between one another? [GM (around $100) TCI ($210) Madman ($280)] Which one is going to be more beneficial? Which one is going to help more than hurt? Which one is going to make a difference on the track/time slips? Knowing that the TCI and Madman are both SFI approved, what makes the Madman unit $70 more than the TCI? I was told that I could get someone to custom make me one, how much am I looking at that and how does it compare to these? Are these particular ones intended for LS1s? If so, what took so long to come out with one? I mean...LS1s existed in f-bodies since '98, its '03 now and its barely hitting the market. Do either one of the aftermarket units require any modifications? Thanks and any input in much appreciated.
#2
FormerVendor
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Falkner, MS
Posts: 430
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: Flexplates: GM (OEM) vs. TCI vs. Madman
NVmySS,
Most any of the SFI approved flexplates will be a little heavier than the thin stamped steel OEM flexplate. They were designed to hold up to high HP applications (cars going 9.99 and quicker). The NHRA rulebook states that you must run an SFI approved flexplate for those applications. I suppose the reason that it took so long to produce one of these is that there wasn't a big demand when these cars were first released back in '98. As far as a performance improvement, like I said in the other post, I doubt that there is over .01 difference in performance in any application from the OEs to Madmans to TCIs. Ours (TCIs) is a bolt-in. No mods are necessary.
Kevin
Most any of the SFI approved flexplates will be a little heavier than the thin stamped steel OEM flexplate. They were designed to hold up to high HP applications (cars going 9.99 and quicker). The NHRA rulebook states that you must run an SFI approved flexplate for those applications. I suppose the reason that it took so long to produce one of these is that there wasn't a big demand when these cars were first released back in '98. As far as a performance improvement, like I said in the other post, I doubt that there is over .01 difference in performance in any application from the OEs to Madmans to TCIs. Ours (TCIs) is a bolt-in. No mods are necessary.
Kevin
#3
Banned
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Azle/Saginaw, Tx
Posts: 5,581
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: Flexplates: GM (OEM) vs. TCI vs. Madman
basically the only thing that a TCI flywheel which is slightly heavier than stock will offer is better pull between shifts and a better launch but no ACTUAL PERFORMANCE enhancement correct??
#4
Re: Flexplates: GM (OEM) vs. TCI vs. Madman
They were designed to hold up to high HP applications (cars going 9.99 and quicker).
better pull between shifts and a better launch
#5
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (6)
Re: Flexplates: GM (OEM) vs. TCI vs. Madman
If you own a late 2000 and up Fbody, GM made the flexplates lighter.. keep an eye on them. I've seen 3 of them come apart!
They are the ones with the "kidney" shaped holes. The 98-99's look more like a old fashion chevy.. haven't see any trouble with them.
Of course, these aftermarket SFI plates are another sset in the right direction.
They are the ones with the "kidney" shaped holes. The 98-99's look more like a old fashion chevy.. haven't see any trouble with them.
Of course, these aftermarket SFI plates are another sset in the right direction.
#6
Re: Flexplates: GM (OEM) vs. TCI vs. Madman
My car is a 2000, but its an M6 right now. So I dont have to worry about having the bad batch. Im in the market for one and I was considering one of the aftermarket units if it was worth it. I just want to get some feedback on these units, before I make any decisions. I know that theyre pretty new and I dont know of anyone else on here but a couple of people, one with the Madman and one with the TCI. So maybe thats why there isnt much response to this thread because theres not too many with 'em. I know that theryre stronger, heavier, SFI approved, and keep you from getting kicked of if youre running 9s, but what else can you tell me about them? "Thanks-a-mil'."
Trending Topics
#8
TECH Apprentice
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: IL Western Burbs of Chicago
Posts: 366
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: Flexplates: GM (OEM) vs. TCI vs. Madman
yank Sells the 98-99 Stock GM flexplates for 50 bucks. I had to buy one when i got the 6-bolt flange converter as the 01s have only 3 bolt holes.
#9
Re: Flexplates: GM (OEM) vs. TCI vs. Madman
Whoa whoa whoa...I have a 2000 Camaro, however its not equipped with a automatic. However, I plan to convert over to a 200-4R. Im buying my converter from TCS, is there something that Im lacking that I should inform them before they start making my converter? What I mean is, if I get an aftermarket flexplate (TCI or Madman), then are they going to mate up with the converter? The reason I ask is because of this... Are there different flexplates offered by TCI and Madman for different year models? I had no idea that the flexplates were different between '98 and '02! Man...Im totally lost here! Someone please help me! Ok...as I stated before, Im going to convert over to a 200-4R. Im going to need a flexplate, however, I havent decided if I want to go with an aftermarket unit or an OEM. Either way I go, I want it to work for the converter, for the motor, and for the tranny. What do I need to know so that I get everything correct and make sure that everything is going to fit? Thanks
Yank sells the 98-99 Stock GM flexplates for 50 bucks. I had to buy one when I got the 6-bolt flange converter as the 01s have only 3 bolt holes.
#10
Re: Flexplates: GM (OEM) vs. TCI vs. Madman
Yank sells the 98-99 Stock GM flexplates for 50 bucks. I had to buy one when I got the 6-bolt flange converter as the 01s have only 3 bolt holes.
#11
TECH Senior Member
Re: Flexplates: GM (OEM) vs. TCI vs. Madman
The '98-'00s are of a stronger design. They bolt up the same so either will work. It's just that the '01-'02s are noticably thinner and have a little different look to them. I've used both.
#12
Re: Flexplates: GM (OEM) vs. TCI vs. Madman
So what did 42NightZ28 mean by... So if I was to go with an OEM unit, which year did they produce the best one for LS1s? Im not sure yet if I will go with a factory unit, but I want to keep everything in mind. Do the aftermarket units work for any aftermarket converter? Thanks
I had to buy one when I got the 6-bolt flange converter as the 01s have only 3 bolt holes.
#13
TECH Apprentice
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: IL Western Burbs of Chicago
Posts: 366
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: Flexplates: GM (OEM) vs. TCI vs. Madman
So what did 42NightZ28 mean by... So if I was to go with an OEM unit, which year did they produce the best one for LS1s? Im not sure yet if I will go with a factory unit, but I want to keep everything in mind. Do the aftermarket units work for any aftermarket converter? Thanks
I had to buy one when I got the 6-bolt flange converter as the 01s have only 3 bolt holes.
#14
Re: Flexplates: GM (OEM) vs. TCI vs. Madman
On some Aftermarket converters 6-Bolt Mouting bolts are a option for high strength. TCS and Yank both offer this. 98-00 Stock Flexplates have a 6-holt design but the stock converter only uses 3 of them. The 01-02 Design Flexplate has only 3 holes and is thinner so to use a 6 bolt converter a swap to the older style in needed. If someone will host the pic for me i will send a pic comparing the 2 OEM designs.
#15
Re: Flexplates: GM (OEM) vs. TCI vs. Madman
If you own a late 2000 and up Fbody, GM made the flexplates lighter.. keep an eye on them. I've seen 3 of them come apart!
They are the ones with the "kidney" shaped holes. The 98-99's look more like a old fashion chevy.. haven't see any trouble with them.
Of course, these aftermarket SFI plates are another sset in the right direction.
They are the ones with the "kidney" shaped holes. The 98-99's look more like a old fashion chevy.. haven't see any trouble with them.
Of course, these aftermarket SFI plates are another sset in the right direction.
Do I replace the flex-plate with the OEM unit or look for another type? I'm having the engine and trans pulled out of the car and having the engine rebuilt (currently standard) with 240 - 250 @.50, 108 - 110 LSA cam, head/valve train work and pistons/rods.
#17
Re: Flexplates: GM (OEM) vs. TCI vs. Madman
Im most likely going to buy a TCI unit for the obvious reason! ($200 vs. $280) Why is the Madman unit 80 bucks more? Whats the difference between the TCI and the Madman? Lastly before I place the order, does anyone know if anyone else (another manufacturer) is going to be putting one on the market anytime soon or in the near future? I just wanted to know because I dont want to buy this one and then next month one comes out that I rather have. Just want to make sure that this is the one that I want to buy. An aftermarket unit is already a go, its what brand that I have to decide from. I just wanted to make sure that nothing is going to come out later thats going to be better. Thanks
#19
Re: Flexplates: GM (OEM) vs. TCI vs. Madman
How would you say it compares to the TCI unit which is constructed of billet steel? I know that theyre both SFI approved and that the Madman unit is a bit more expensive, but what makes it so? Is it the material that makes it $80 more? I knew that my decision could be easily thrown off! I know that the Madman is a more expensive unit, but does that necessarily make it a better unit? Thanks