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Old 01-18-2010, 02:44 PM
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ok..

the 1996 cobra
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ford is the one who decided to leave the 5.4 4v in aussie land. (385hp)

the discussion is the 2011 gt.
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Originally Posted by TransFan
Exactly when was price in the equation for 6cyl's beating gts. Excuses?? I've beaten a GT in an altima 3.5se
All that should, would crap is bogus. Fbody has been dead since 02 and the GT is just now in 2011 getting enough power to outrun an 98-02 f bodys. Now the camaro is back and spanking the GT again. Guess they realize maybe its time we have some competition. I feel sorry for guys who bought a 2010 GT to realize the 2011 base mustang is a few horses behind in power. I'd Barf then sell that Ford quick.
i killed countless 3.5 altimas with my automatic 96 gt. (k&n,x-pipe,fpr)

the coyote v8 design started 2 years ago. probably to counter the srt-8's (challenger in particular) not the camaro which didnt exist.

with a 62ish hp, 30-40 lb/ft advantage, outrun is an understatement.

my bet is the v6 2011 is FASTER than a 2010 GT. less weight.
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Originally Posted by assasinator
my bet is the v6 2011 is FASTER than a 2010 GT. less weight.
No. It wont even be faster than a 99-04 GT. HP isn't everything. It has less torque too. If it runs 14.3s I'll be impressed.
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are you on crack. its a 13.7 car and the stock 99-04 will not break 14.0. ive been driving them forever.
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Originally Posted by assasinator
i killed countless 3.5 altimas with my automatic 96 gt. (k&n,x-pipe,fpr)

the coyote v8 design started 2 years ago. probably to counter the srt-8's (challenger in particular) not the camaro which didnt exist.

with a 62ish hp, 30-40 lb/ft advantage, outrun is an understatement.

my bet is the v6 2011 is FASTER than a 2010 GT. less weight.
You killed 3.5 altimas with your modded GT... I would hope that you would be able beat one. I would like to hear your description of "killed" though. I beat a mustang gt easily in an altima. I guess I killed a GT as well. The camaro concept actually has existed for a few years now. I know it was a concept but the HP numbers were floating around also. I'm sure ford had the camaro in mind as well.
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Originally Posted by TransFan
Exactly when was price in the equation for 6cyl's beating gts. Excuses?? I've beaten a GT in an altima 3.5se
Yes, and I've beaten a GTO in my stock 2v GT. I wouldn't dare say my car is faster than a GTO though. A brand new Altima also cost more than a 2V GT did in 02. I hope you aren't saying an 02 Altima (did they even make one then) was faster. If you are referring to the current models.. well they have a 240hp V6 in a car that is HEAVIER than a 260hp V8 Mustang.
All that should, would crap is bogus. Fbody has been dead since 02 and the GT is just now in 2011 getting enough power to outrun an 98-02 f bodys. Now the camaro is back and spanking the GT again.
Um, the Camaro is back, but it wont be spanking a 2011 GT.
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im done.
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Originally Posted by assasinator
are you on crack. its a 13.7 car and the stock 99-04 will not break 14.0.
YOU can't get one to break 14.0s maybe. I have gotten a 13.9. And others have gotten faster. For example...

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i ran a 13.82/13.89/13.89/13.9/13.99 in my bone stock 04 gt 5 speed. and im pretty sure drgnracing did a 13.7 so either way its been proven. u could run a pass like that infront of some of those guys on LS1tech and they wouldnt believe it. sometimes i think theyre bigger nutswingers than the import guys.
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altima 3.5 se = 0-60 in 5.9 seconds
99-2004 GT stang = 0-60 in 6.1

this is just for the 2 arguing in front of me lol
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Originally Posted by 02ws666
altima 3.5 se = 0-60 in 5.9 seconds
99-2004 GT stang = 0-60 in 6.1

this is just for the 2 arguing in front of me lol
Uh the 99-2004 is 0-60 in 5.5. WTF did you get 6.1 from?

I even seen it listed as 5.4 in a couple of places. NEVER 6.1. Whoever posted a 6.1 on the internet is full of fail.
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Old 01-18-2010, 03:04 PM
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We didn't go from a dig. I can't remember the exact speed but I guarantee I would have beaten the GT which I stated pre 05 gt over and over again with the stock 270hp altima.
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Originally Posted by TransFan
You killed 3.5 altimas with your modded GT...
Even if it was slightly modded, it was probably slower than a 99-04 GT you claim to beat. I haven't had a 3.5 Altima even come close to killing me. It has 20 less HP (approximately some are 240 some are 270 depending on the year) wrong wheel drive, and is heavier than a 99-04 GT. If you beat one, you beat the driver.
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Originally Posted by TransFan
We didn't go from a dig. I can't remember the exact speed but I guarantee I would have beaten the GT which I stated pre 05 gt over and over again with the stock 270hp altima.
Even with an extra 10hp at the crank, it weighs more than a GT, and is front wheel drive, AND it has less torque. If it was a 95-98 auto, I could see you easily taking one of those. But not a 99-04 GT with a proper driver.
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Old 01-18-2010, 03:15 PM
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http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/....5se-road_test

Still so unbelievable??
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Originally Posted by Ke^in
A brand new Altima also cost more than a 2V GT did in 02. I hope you aren't saying an 02 Altima (did they even make one then) was faster. If you are referring to the current models.. well they have a 240hp V6 in a car that is HEAVIER than a 260hp V8 Mustang.
You might want to actually inform yourself on the topic you're attempting to argue here. Comparing similar years, the Altima has been a bottom 14 second car at 245-260hp and tripping the scales UNDER 3200lbs. Base price around $22K for a 2004.
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Originally Posted by Ke^in
YOU can't get one to break 14.0s maybe. I have gotten a 13.9. And others have gotten faster. For example...

There ya go, taking less then .1% of the 99-04 GTs that broke into the 13s and using it as a standard? I'd like to see some proof of your time anyway. Bone stock? Stock tires, stock filter?
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Originally Posted by Ke^in
Uh the 99-2004 is 0-60 in 5.5. WTF did you get 6.1 from?

I even seen it listed as 5.4 in a couple of places. NEVER 6.1. Whoever posted a 6.1 on the internet is full of fail.
ok dude w/e

http://www.modernracer.com/mustanggt.html

http://www.jbcarpages.com/ford/mustang/2004/specs/

looks like with furthur research, its all about the car. im sure a manual can do it fster, but the autos seem pretty slow
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http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...tang_gt_page_3

The autos were for sure slow.

There was some unhappiness with the action of the four-speed automatic transmission — "Feels confused," said one tester, "jerky upshifts, delayed downshifts" — : 6.3 seconds to 60, 15.1 seconds at 93 mph in the quarter. They're best in this test.
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Before I bought my '01 GT, I was THIS close to getting an '06 Altima SE-R. I have no doubt that it could pull a 99-04 GT from a roll, and it would be damn close in the 1/4 (advantage to GT). That was a very sick car
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Old 01-18-2010, 03:30 PM
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Agreed. It's not some made up fairy tale that the 3.5 altima can beat a 99-04 gt and not because of a bad mustang driver*
BTW I loved the wheels on the SE-R.

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