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Old 02-09-2011, 11:15 PM
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Holden has also left their mark on more than just the chassis/suspension.





I knew I've seen that front fascia/splitter and driving light treatment somewhere before.
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So they decided to call it the ZL-1 eh? Good. I'm glad SOMEONE at GM's marketing department knows what the hell they're doing. Looks pretty tight. Can't wait to see the weight/pricing/track numbers.

I'm guessing they'll hold onto the Z28 badge for when they figure out how to put the new Camaro on a diet.
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Originally Posted by TriShield
Here's the GT500 up against the LSA CTS-V.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QW-qF_Xzjl4

The ZL1 will be more than a match for it.
So you think the manual ZL-1 will reproduce these results? (that V was an auto).
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Originally Posted by jmurray87
John Fitz - Camaro Marketing Mgr:
Ironhead... We continue to work on evolving Camaro. Regarding Z28, all I can say is stay tuned...

John Fitz - Camaro Marketing Mgr:
KentWatkins.. I think it is very interesting to note that history of the Z28 and its comparison to Boss 302...
Wednesday February 9, 2011 3:42 John Fitz - Camaro Marketing Mgr
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Bam, There we have it....The Z28 still just may come down the road.
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I guarantee this car will peform the exact same a GT500 or the CTS-V.
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did anybody else catch that the hood is ALUMINUM and not just a steel hood with carbon fiber inserts? That's a HUGE difference in weight over a stock SS steel hood. Aluminum usage i bet is high in this car which is great

Exterior – ZL1’s signature from the front is the redesigned fascia and aluminum hood with a
raised, carbon fiber insert. The fascia includes a front splitter and new vertical fog lamps. The
fog lamp area includes air intakes designed for brake cooling. The hood features front-mounted
air extractors that direct air precisely over the car. Visually, this center section, in satin black
carbon fiber, communicates the car’s high-performance intent as a visual contrast to the car’s
exterior color. Functionally, the air extractor is a key in connecting airflow closely to the
bodywork, creating aerodynamic downforce. The carbon fiber center section reduces the mass
of the hood. High-intensity discharge (HID) headlamps and fog lamps are standard. The rear of
the car includes a diffuser and spoiler, also functional elements that enhance the car’s
aerodynamics.

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Honestly, I'm fine with using the ZL1 name, I just wish they would have given it more power. This thing is going to weigh a lot, whether they tried to lose some weight or not. The blower adds a nice chunk of weight, I'd say coming in just under or around 4100. The LS9 should have gone here...sure, might add a little to the price, but at least that would help justify what will undoubtedly by a 55k+ price tag. For 60k, I'd take an LS9 ZL1.

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That's the plan.
Got proof of that?
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Originally Posted by WSsick
Got proof of that?
Originally Posted by jmurray87
John Fitz - Camaro Marketing Mgr:
Ironhead... We continue to work on evolving Camaro. Regarding Z28, all I can say is stay tuned...

John Fitz - Camaro Marketing Mgr:
KentWatkins.. I think it is very interesting to note that history of the Z28 and its comparison to Boss 302...
Wednesday February 9, 2011 3:42 John Fitz - Camaro Marketing Mgr
3:42

Bam, There we have it....The Z28 still just may come down the road.

That's good enough for me. It's hinted at several times during that interview so they have something planned.
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Originally Posted by jmurray87
That's good enough for me. It's hinted at several times during that interview so they have something planned.
God I hope so. I'd love to see Camaro & Mustang compete on every level. Either the LS7 needs to go in it, or maybe a 427ci Gen V motor a couple years down the road.
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Originally Posted by Cole Train
did anybody else catch that the hood is ALUMINUM and not just a steel hood with carbon fiber inserts? That's a HUGE difference in weight over a stock SS steel hood. Aluminum usage i bet is high in this car which is great

Exterior – ZL1’s signature from the front is the redesigned fascia and aluminum hood with a
raised, carbon fiber insert. The fascia includes a front splitter and new vertical fog lamps. The
fog lamp area includes air intakes designed for brake cooling. The hood features front-mounted
air extractors that direct air precisely over the car. Visually, this center section, in satin black
carbon fiber, communicates the car’s high-performance intent as a visual contrast to the car’s
exterior color. Functionally, the air extractor is a key in connecting airflow closely to the
bodywork, creating aerodynamic downforce. The carbon fiber center section reduces the mass
of the hood. High-intensity discharge (HID) headlamps and fog lamps are standard. The rear of
the car includes a diffuser and spoiler, also functional elements that enhance the car’s
aerodynamics.
The SS hood is aluminum.
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are you sure? the buddy of mine that hit a deer with his said when the shop repainted it they had to do some stuff to it and that it was steel
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Originally Posted by TriShield
I'm sure they did, but there's only so much you can do without adding substantial cost to the consumer. The SS already uses an aluminum suspension and hood to my knowledge.

Throw in giant brakes/calipers, steamroller tires, blower, intercooler and I wouldn't be surprised if it clocks in at 4100lbs. LSA CTS-Vs are 4300lbs with all that hardware afterall.

That's not a bad thing, it makes the car a heavyweight champion. But we'll see.
lies... itll be 3500
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Originally Posted by LS1vazquez
You are not Tri-Shield
That's what I was thinking too!!
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They should've did a wet sump ls9. That way it would've been max effort and competed with the super snake.
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Originally Posted by Cole Train
are you sure? the buddy of mine that hit a deer with his said when the shop repainted it they had to do some stuff to it and that it was steel
Positive. The shop may be retarded.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
They should've did a wet sump ls9. That way it would've been max effort and competed with the super snake.
Yeah...I almost feel like I expected more from this car, but w/ a ls9 it would cost around 70k.

I still think it will best a GT500 in stock form...just because of the shitty stock tires on the GT500 and torque advantage of the ZL1.
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Z28 i like better! wish they would of left it!
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http://jalopnik.com/#!5757938/the-ca...s-still-coming

Z28 is still on the way

Ray Wert (author of that article) received a Facebook message from a high level GM exec (Doesn't look like spelling/grammar from a high level executive, but this is what's reported).
i know u no likey ZL1 for a name, but remember what Z28 stood for....homologated 302 high rev SCCA trans am series track car. so step back and think what could happen here…
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Originally Posted by Gaunt
http://jalopnik.com/#!5757938/the-ca...s-still-coming

Z28 is still on the way

Ray Wert (author of that article) received a Facebook message from a high level GM exec (Doesn't look like spelling/grammar from a high level executive, but this is what's reported).
That's great stuff.
Maybe the new 5.5L (not quite 5.0L but close enough) Direct Injection LSx motor will find it's way into a very 'decontented' Camaro SS and that could become the new Z28?
Maybe some derivation of the current 4.8L or 5.3L as mentioned earlier?
Either way these are exciting times.
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In a Z28 I'd like to see a; DI 5.5L Gen 5 v8 motor with forged internals for customer installed power adder. Also reduced weight.


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