djsanchez2

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http://www.lsxtv.com/news/cadillac-a...389#f35950fb74



Word on the street for some time has been that General Motors is working on a “baby CTS” for the Cadillac lineup that will be smaller and cheaper than the current flagship sedan. What this Caddy will look like is anybody’s guess, though a short wheelbase CTS has been caught on the track in previous months, lending some legitimacy to these rumors. And now we have more than rumors to go on.

Two eagle-eyed members of the GM Inside News forums caught a brief glimpse of this mystery car under construction in the opening video of the General Motors website. The offending intro video appears to have been removed from the site already.

Now we’ve got to tread this ground carefully, because we like what we see, but we don’t want to get our hopes up either. This car appears to be a body-in-white with a rear-wheel drive configuration. The initial post was started by a user who goes by “Elvissuperman,” and he also posted two other shots that stuck out to him, which both appeared to show the Cadillac Converj concept. But the third picture looks nothing like the Converj, or anything else in GM’s lineup. The coupe-ish rear window, square gas filler area, and even a spoiler and some fancy rims for a body-in-white. Perfect for a car rumored to be getting a twin-turbo V6.



But is it really the ATS? User “Envoy4Life” posted up a recent spy picture from GM’s test track compared with the mystery model. While the booty looks a lot bigger, look specifically at the lines of the doors. It isn’t dead on, but it is awful close, and we’re starting to think that we got a sneak peak at Cadillac’s small car. And it looks good for a shell of a car, despite reports that the baby ATS was suffering from some growing pains. Hopefully the final product will be worth the trouble.

Gaunt

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A lot of the mule cars are Frankensteins with different body parts testing out drive-train and suspension stuff (meaning, the difference between those two images might not be much to concern oneself with).

That said, I hope they pull this off

Doubt they would release something faster than the V-car, but it is what it is.

Z Fury

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I highly doubt a twin-turbo V6 is going to outperform the LSA in stock trim.

djsanchez2

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Well i think it all depends on how much weight they are able to cut with the new chassis. If they can hit sub 3500lbs and the TTv6 pumps out 450hp they might have a chance of at least keeping up with the V.

WSsick

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I would think the ATS-V would be something along the lines of a Gen V all motor car, to compete/beat the M3/ISF/C63 V8s.

Z Fury

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I agree with you there, but my prediction is just over 3600lbs and right at 400hp.

TriShield

It's going to be 4,000lbs. The chassis has gone through a few revisions and mission changes since it was concieved and it's primary purpose is to be a Cadillac, not a Camaro or a muscle car.

Irunelevens

Which means the next Camaro will most likely be a compromised car as well?

turbowhistle86

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isn't the current one compromised as well.....its a 3900 lb converted sedan chassis.

NHRATA01

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I don't know if it will be quite that heavy, I thought it was supposed to slide in under the CTS as a 3-series sized car (~3700lbs), with the XTS a slot above as the STS/DTS replacement?

Z Fury

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If what you say is correct, what is the point in building the Camaro on this chassis? I thought weight reduction was the goal there?

Tainted

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theyre all to damn heavy!

Irunelevens

Yeah... that's what I was getting at

turbowhistle86

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^^^ I assumed you were referring to the ATS as being compromised, not the 5 gen, Mr Stickpoker

Irunelevens

oh ok

Cole Train

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We will see increases in weight for years to come. With all the safety equipement needed now along with crash test standards, unless you see some new, cheap, lightweight materials weight won't decrease. If they start using more expensive materials such as carbon fiber you will see prices increase and this will in turn lead to more bitching about prices and less sales. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.