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Old 01-05-2011, 12:38 PM
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Default Stock LQ4: 750 proform HP tune up needed

About to put my intake and carb on, but I'd like some suggestions for the carb tune up. What jets, air bleeds, PV, pump size, pump cams etc.

What plugs would work well in this app? I have used NGK and like them but that was with my SBC.

The car is a RX7 at around 2250# with no driver. Powerglide big stall converter, 1 7/8 headers. 4.56 gear with 295/65/15 DRs. Fuel will be 89 octane gas.
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Originally Posted by Luke Skyjacker
About to put my intake and carb on, but I'd like some suggestions for the carb tune up. What jets, air bleeds, PV, pump size, pump cams etc.

What plugs would work well in this app? I have used NGK and like them but that was with my SBC.

The car is a RX7 at around 2250# with no driver. Powerglide big stall converter, 1 7/8 headers. 4.56 gear with 295/65/15 DRs. Fuel will be 89 octane gas.
Each car is different. I would say start with the factory sizes on everything and tweak it to solve any problems you encounter. In general lighter cars with higher numeric ratio gears do not need as much pump shot duration and might rev a little faster if slightly leaner. Other than that, I can't think of anything until you try it out.
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I'm just looking for a baseline to start with. I guess I could find the paperwork that came with the carb.
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That is allot of car around a stock motor man, it is going to be interesting. That is set up for a cam, so a smaller jetted setup with 68 primaries and 72 secondaries will probably work, use whatever air bleeds you have to see how it will run with whatever else is already in the carb just to get a base line.
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[QUOTE=ZONES89RS;14320656]That is allot of car around a stock motor man, it is going to be interesting. That is set up for a cam, so a smaller jetted setup with 68 primaries and 72 secondaries will probably work, use whatever air bleeds you have to see how it will run with whatever else is already in the carb just to get a base line.[/QUOTIE] i've been meaning to PM you for some info. I'm gonna be moving back to the Houston area in may and my mom lives near Conroe (midland). I'm gonna try the jets you suggested, I'm still gonna have to wait till I get my MSD 6010 to fire it.
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If you read through the stickies you will find the details from a couple dozen different cars.

Should get you really close.
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Originally Posted by Luke Skyjacker
i've been meaning to PM you for some info. I'm gonna be moving back to the Houston area in may and my mom lives near Conroe (midland). I'm gonna try the jets you suggested, I'm still gonna have to wait till I get my MSD 6010 to fire it.

Well, welcome back to Houston, maybe i will be able to give you a hand with it man, do you have any carb tuning equipment?
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I have an assortment of jets. I can get air bleeds and pumps from a buddy of mine. I looked through the stickies but there kinda hit & miss with people having more modified engines and lacking info on carb settings.
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Yea man, you are going to have to start lower and then work up or down to see what the engine does and doesnt like to respond to.
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Originally Posted by ZONES89RS
That is allot of car around a stock motor man, it is going to be interesting.
it's actually not much of a car at 2200-2300 lbs! LOL but I know what you mean. I have always wanted to see what one of these motors would do in a dedicated drag car. Cool thing is I'm setting it up so I can still drive it in the street.

How strict is the tech at HMP? I know there are alot of cruise Ins and car related events in the area. I'm really looking forward to that.
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Originally Posted by ZONES89RS
That is set up for a cam, so a smaller jetted setup with 68 primaries and 72 secondaries will probably work, use whatever air bleeds you have to see how it will run with whatever else is already in the carb just to get a base line.


I'd leave the primary secondary gap much larger than 4 sizes, since the power valve is worth 6-8 and the secondary would need to match it. 70/78 would be my starting point, might need a 50cc pump shot kit up front, you'll know soon enough I suppose. Lots of threads on it, best bet is to start with the stock jetting which can be googled and go from there. A wideband is a great tuning tool to purchase
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Wideband would be pretty nice, I just don't havevthe funds at this point. As it is now I am gonna have to wait a few more weeks to get a msd 6010
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Well then reading plugs isn't too bad, and you can always take pics and post them too.
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Originally Posted by Luke Skyjacker
How strict is the tech at HMP? I know there are alot of cruise Ins and car related events in the area. I'm really looking forward to that.
Tech? It is a joke if you have a street car, but once you go too fast, they are hit and miss, there have been nights i got and run 7.6 and they dont say anything about me not wearing a helmet, other times, my buddy was running 8.4 and they would not let him make another pass without a helmet, just be prepare with safety equipment in case you need it.
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It really sucks when they say you are not making another pass without a cage. That is a little tougher to borrow.
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I fount the paperwork that came with the carb. Called for 74P-84S jets with a 4.5 PV. I only had a 9.5 PV or a plug so I used the PV. If I have midrange issues I guess I will start there. I know I changed the pump cam and the airbleeds but I will just see if I have any drivability issues. Thanks for the help guys.

How hard is E85 to get ahold of in Houston?
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Originally Posted by Luke Skyjacker
I fount the paperwork that came with the carb. Called for 74P-84S jets with a 4.5 PV. I only had a 9.5 PV or a plug so I used the PV. If I have midrange issues I guess I will start there. I know I changed the pump cam and the airbleeds but I will just see if I have any drivability issues. Thanks for the help guys.

How hard is E85 to get ahold of in Houston?
9.5 is pretty high. If you have much cam in the car, it may cause you some very
rich idle problems.
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Cam is stock LQ4. I thought it might be too much also. I'm gonna pick up a 4.5 while I'm out tonight.
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Originally Posted by Luke Skyjacker

How hard is E85 to get ahold of in Houston?


Not too bad, it is not super easy to find, but it is out here, just depends on where you are at.
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Originally Posted by xpndbl3
I'd leave the primary secondary gap much larger than 4 sizes, since the power valve is worth 6-8 and the secondary would need to match it.
You can't say that for sure unless you know the PVCR diameter.


Originally Posted by speedtigger
9.5 is pretty high. If you have much cam in the car, it may cause you some very
rich idle problems.
Not true either (unless your carb is setup wrong) as the power valve only feeds the boosters (unless the power valve is blown).



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