69 camaro ls swap oil pan trouble
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69 camaro ls swap oil pan trouble
i putting a ls1 out of a 02 camaro in my 69 camaro and i got the headman mounts and headers and everything clears great but my oil pan is the center link... was wondering what pan you guys are running
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Billsnogo.. I was meaning to ping you, cause I know you have been having a fit with your setup.. Here is a run down of what I had going....
I just test fitted it yesterday.. I used 1/2" alum to fab the plates. Energy Short/Wide motor mounts.
I first started off without the use of the pre-load plates, the bolt lined up ok. but there was one spot on the Cross member that just touched the oil plan. The RetroLS pan is a bit deeper in the front. (more than F-body and my CTS-V pan).
To solve that. I put the pre-load plate between the plate and the motor mount. Then tried it again. The bolt would not line up as you found out.
To solve that, I used a round router bit / or file bit. I made all of the frame holes for the stands oblong (about 1/8" to 3/16" higher on both sides). then added a thick washer between the frame and the frame stands and alll lined up ok. So, only some minor adjustments to my setup. Could have been my estimation of the plate that could have been off, I didn't have a real Edelbrock plate to use as a Template. So I guess-a-mated. I guess I got close.. LOL
I might use a flat peice of steel plate to connect all of the holes so that it would be stronger ?? maybe not ??.
So, I did raise the engine bit. But it couldn't have been more than 1/4" - 3/8" over all with the final adjustments. If anything, it will give the pan and headers some extra room.
I will be working on a 4L60e trans cross member and finishing up the plates.. I left them rough for the trail fitting.
I just test fitted it yesterday.. I used 1/2" alum to fab the plates. Energy Short/Wide motor mounts.
I first started off without the use of the pre-load plates, the bolt lined up ok. but there was one spot on the Cross member that just touched the oil plan. The RetroLS pan is a bit deeper in the front. (more than F-body and my CTS-V pan).
To solve that. I put the pre-load plate between the plate and the motor mount. Then tried it again. The bolt would not line up as you found out.
To solve that, I used a round router bit / or file bit. I made all of the frame holes for the stands oblong (about 1/8" to 3/16" higher on both sides). then added a thick washer between the frame and the frame stands and alll lined up ok. So, only some minor adjustments to my setup. Could have been my estimation of the plate that could have been off, I didn't have a real Edelbrock plate to use as a Template. So I guess-a-mated. I guess I got close.. LOL
I might use a flat peice of steel plate to connect all of the holes so that it would be stronger ?? maybe not ??.
So, I did raise the engine bit. But it couldn't have been more than 1/4" - 3/8" over all with the final adjustments. If anything, it will give the pan and headers some extra room.
I will be working on a 4L60e trans cross member and finishing up the plates.. I left them rough for the trail fitting.
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careful raising the motor, I had to do the same thing on mine to clear my LY6 pan, but it changes the drive line angles. I am unable to correct the altered angles because the transmission touches the floor before I can raise it enough to fix the front u-joint angle. this winter the engine comes out and either a shallower pan, or notched crossmember is happening.
the angle on the front u-joint of mine is + 2* and the rear is -4*. causes a fairly annoying vibration at and above hwy cruise speed.
the angle on the front u-joint of mine is + 2* and the rear is -4*. causes a fairly annoying vibration at and above hwy cruise speed.
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Hope this helps
Sam
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Lot's of folks using LH8 pans from colorado/H3(5.3L) and that's the one I'm planning to pick up soon for my 69 camaro. I'll let you know if it fits. It is also recommended by 2 builders I talked to and brp. Not sure if it will work with hedman kit.
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oil pan
i dont have any insight for you but i will be following this post as i am about to put an ls based engine in my 67bird and need all the info i can get. if you run into any other problems i would like to hear about those as well.
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Here's a link to some pics of an LS1 with a uncut F-body pan in my 67. Mount plate and engine stand details included. See page 2.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/conversio...ts-camaro.html
Here's a link to some pics of an LS1 with a uncut F-body pan in my 67. Mount plate and engine stand details included. See page 2.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/conversio...ts-camaro.html
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I just got off the phone with Holley and they are coming out with a cast aluminum factory style oil pan for first gen camaros. Comes out in December probably under the hooker brand.
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As with 68 RS Convertible, the oil stock oil pan would have fit without modification, although mine had already been modified.
In addition, there was plenty of room between the firewall and the rear of the block, contrary to what I had read previously about this setup.
I did have to grind the bottom screw on my alternator so that the alternator would clear the crossmember.