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Old 11-07-2011, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by LS1-450
Gotcha, IMO, the clutter is worth it. I've got mine set up exactly as noted in the reply, as to avoid high RPM slippage. For the idler between the crank & alternator, used a small diameter idler pulley left over from a BRP cold side kit. It's like 2" in diameter.
got any pics of this? how did you attach the idler and space it correctly?
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Originally Posted by MX6.0
That's a good idea.

On your setup is the upper idler pulley that's next to the water pump ribbed or smooth? The ribbed side of the belt rides on this pulley but I wasn't sure if it was required to be ribbed since it's just an idler.
Definitely ribbed. Use the same pulley that's on the tensioner. Guys sell them used on here, all the time.

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got any pics of this? how did you attach the idler and space it correctly?

Sorry, I don't have any pics. The pulleys can be spaced using washers &/or metal sleeves that can be found @ the local hardware store. May have to do some grinding of bolt heads here & there for clearance.
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Thanks 450!

Just mocked up the lower idler pulley. I just happened to have the perfect sized steel sleeve laying around to space it out. Now I just have to find a longer bolt and a ribbed tensioner pulley.
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Got the pulleys and belt all figured out. Here's the parts I used:

-Goodyear Gatorback ribbed tensioner pulley - 49021
-10 x 130mm x 1.5 long bolt
-smooth idler pulley from GM accessory kit - 12568996
-Dayco 56" belt - 5060560

For the ribbed tensioner pulley I needed to find something that would center the 130mm bolt in the middle of the pulley. I ended up using a 10mm nut and rounded off the points around the outside to get it to the same diameter as the inside of the pulley, then pressed it in. Next I used assorted washers to get the pulleys all lined up. The tension seems about perfect.


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-Modified the stock windage tray to fit the new oil pan. Also had to tweak the pick-up tube to have sufficient clearance between the pick-up screen and the bottom of the pan. Sitting right at 1/4" now.

-Installed the motor mounts



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This thing should be a little beast. Awesome garage set-up. Keep us updated. Subscribed
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sweet build man
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Originally Posted by MX6.0
Got the pulleys and belt all figured out. Here's the parts I used:

-Goodyear Gatorback ribbed tensioner pulley - 49021
-10 x 130mm x 1.5 long bolt
-smooth idler pulley from GM accessory kit - 12568996
-Dayco 56" belt - 5060560

For the ribbed tensioner pulley I needed to find something that would center the 130mm bolt in the middle of the pulley. I ended up using a 10mm nut and rounded off the points around the outside to get it to the same diameter as the inside of the pulley, then pressed it in. Next I used assorted washers to get the pulleys all lined up. The tension seems about perfect.

http://i974.photobucket.com/albums/a...g?t=1320876383


Nice job. That is head & shoulders above the limited wrap that would have resulted on the crank, alt & water pump pulleys, had you chosen not to add the pulleys. There will now be zero high RPM slip.

Now...get ready for your information to turn into some vendors' kit. It's why I usually don't provide such information publicly.
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The clutch showed up today!

Compared to the Monster Stage 3 that was on there, this will save me 16.5lbs in rotating mass. Not to mention the inertia difference since it has a smaller diameter.




Also stopped by Harbor Freight to get a little rolling stool to use under the car.

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Wow! That's a nice clutch. Is that a stage 4? Make sure to have the pressure plate & flywheel balanced, as an assembly, prior to installing.
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It's Spec's Super Twin. It comes pre-balanced
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fwiw, my Spec was supposed to be pre-balanced too. It wasn't.

Also, what size is your rad, and how did you decide on the size?
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fwiw, my Spec was supposed to be pre-balanced too. It wasn't.

Also, what size is your rad, and how did you decide on the size?
Yeah....definitely have it checked. When I ordered my clutch kit from V8R, Shandelle said that they stopped using Spec and Fidanza due to quality issues. He didn't go into a whole lot of detail, other than to say that they had been experiencing failures and manufacturing issues.....so that's something to consider. Based on that conversation....if it were me....I'd have the balancing verified by a machine shop.
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Originally Posted by acorad
fwiw, my Spec was supposed to be pre-balanced too. It wasn't.

Also, what size is your rad, and how did you decide on the size?
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Yeah....definitely have it checked. When I ordered my clutch kit from V8R, Shandelle said that they stopped using Spec and Fidanza due to quality issues. He didn't go into a whole lot of detail, other than to say that they had been experiencing failures and manufacturing issues.....so that's something to consider. Based on that conversation....if it were me....I'd have the balancing verified by a machine shop.
Did you guys notice any counter weights on your flywheels? I took my pressure plate off and noticed a couple tiny little washers bolted to the outside of the FW. I'm assuming these were to balance the assembly.

There are also corresponding "1" marks on the flywheel and pressure place to ensure they go back together the same way they were taken apart.

Thanks for the advice!


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My clutch setup is completely different than yours. I'm using a lightened cast iron flywheel, and a totally different disk than yours. Sorry I can't be of more help.
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Originally Posted by acorad
Also, what size is your rad, and how did you decide on the size?
For the radiator I decided to go with the FM Crossflow for a couple reasons. It's well developed and has some testing behind it. Plus it was designed for an easy installation in a Miata. I'm sure there are cheaper solutions out there but to me the price difference wasn't worth the extra research time and fabrication to make something else fit.
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For the radiator I decided to go with the FM Crossflow ..... I'm sure there are cheaper solutions out there but to me the price difference wasn't worth the extra research time and fabrication to make something else fit....
Which is why we spend $800.00 on a friggin' oil pan! lol I feel the same way...on some things, ya just bite the bullet and go with tried and true
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Which is why we spend $800.00 on a friggin' oil pan! lol I feel the same way...on some things, ya just bite the bullet and go with tried and true
Speaking of $800 oil pans. I had a little issue with my pan. I went to install it and noticed it wouldn't sit flat on the block. When one end was flush the opposite corner was 3/16" off, requiring about 15lbs to bring it down flat. I spoke with FM/V8R and they are taking care of it. Just something else to watch out for. With the pan only torqued to 18ft/lb I wouldn't wanna take any chances with leaks.
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I finally started tearing the car apart today. First I removed the fenders and bumper.


Then started labeling all of the electrical connections with wire markers. Also wrote down the location of each connector with the corresponding wire tag.


This is as far as I got tonight. Shooting to get the engine dropped out tomorrow.
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Made some more progress on the car today. Got the engine dropped out. Next step is removing the dash so I can get all of the engine harnesses pulled back through the firewall.







Monster likes what she sees.


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