thunderzy

Has anyone ever swapped in an LS1 into a 190e series mercedes? I ran a search but did not come up with anything.

BLWN1

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CLK woud be cool......

chummmma

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theres a 300 SEL near my work with a chevy v8 in it with a weiland sticking outta the hood on slicks/skinnies... i always wanted to stop by and see what was up with it lol its like a 1988 300 series i think.

mramay

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I'm doing an LS6 into an '87 560SEC (W126 series) but I haven't heard of a 190e (W201) chassis being done. My engine compartment is barely wide enough for the LSx engine and headers, I can't help thinking that the narrower 190e body would be rather difficult to shoehorn the engine into. There have been some people that have put the M117 MB engine in there so those are the folks you need to find to see how that engine went in. The M117 is very, very close to the same width as an LSx engine, but it is 3/4" shorter and a little taller than the LSx.

Gen3Benz

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LS1 fits very nice between w201 framerails.
A/C compressor and brackets fit great too.
trans tunnel requires some cutting, as does the bulkhead supports.
crossmember will need to be chopped out and a new one fabbed up, while running a gto front sump pan.
steering box will need to be ditched for a rack and pinion, to make room for exhaust.
lots of other mods required.

philntx

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Do you have any pictures of your 190/GenIII?

mramay

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Great - the voice of experience instead of mine just guessing!! :-)

Gen3Benz, did you leave the AC compressor in it's normal position on the lower part of the engine, passenger side?

Philntx - please fill out your profile for location. I'm in Vegas and Gen3Benz (who I'd like to meet one day) is in Phoenix. Where are you?

Gen3Benz

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I plan on taking pics this weekend.
Ill be yanking the engine again so I will get some good shots of the crossmember.
Rack and pinion mounting tabs are not welding on yet, coming as soon as I make a steering shaft that works.
yes, Im using the factory brackets. lower passenger side
I will take a pic of the a/c bolted up this weekend too.
As it sits right now, the trans is pointing 3 degrees down and the diff points 3 degrees up.

philntx

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I always liked the 190 2.3 16V car. Had the subtle GFx, but I never had a chance to measure the width of the engine bay to see if an LS would fit.

Gen3Benz

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I remembered that I had my camera in my truck
Took some pics with the engine resting during my lunch break.
I will take more this weekend with compressor bolted on and engine out.
Notice the dummy wooden springs, I call them "Ei-blocks"
The last pic shows the removeable front section of the crossmember.
It will be bolted to the rear section after I plasma cut the bolt holes.

mramay

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That looks great. Lots of work done, lots to do.

I don't have any welding skills so I'm trying to use the SEC crossmember without major modifications, which is making life difficult. I have the rack & pinion temporarily bolted in there. I've found a plastic (replica) LSx engine and an empty 700R4 housing to use for fit up. Once I get the engine/tranny to mount properly, then I get to try the medium length headers I have, then see what insanity it's going to take to get the steering shaft run in there. Seems always to be something that needs inventing to get that engine in there!!

thunderzy

Gen3--- great picks, keep em coming. What year is that car? Are you going to leave the exterior stock? If not may I suggest the Evo III body kit from Reiger.

mramay--- sounds like progress. any pics?

Gen3Benz

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Its an 89, already has a widebody kit installed - evo2.
I do like the looks of the Rieger evo3 kit better though.
I will be running 19" bbs LM knockoffs with 10.5 wide in the rear.

mramay - I wanted to push the motor as far back as I could and the factory crossmember would not allow it. My crossmember makes a nice spot to sit the c5 motor mounts on and mount the rack and pinion to.
c6 LS2 exhaust manifolds fit perfectly also.

RedlineTA

How about a W203 Body guys? A 2001 C240 Desert silver haha.....ultimate sleeper especially with electronic cut outs.

Gen3Benz

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Little expensive at the moment. BUT, already has rack and pinion. maybe find one with a cooked engine.
EDIT: this whole time I thought you had a w202, ack its a 2001 c240

RedlineTA

haha thats my project, you can't have it. I'm currently planning it all out.

Hersker Hans

Im just about to start installing a 2004 gto engine in my W124,

https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...light=w124+ls1

Here is my thread, ive got the car and the engine in the garage now. I've bought most of what i need, i still havent decided what fuel press regulator to use though. im hoping to avoid modifying to rack and pinion. This car came with the 500 mb v8 engine, so it should be possible? maybe make som headers instead. Im using my mercedes everyday now, so i havent started disasembling it yet , ive got to kick some life in to my old diesel van first. Ill put a link to this thread in my to.

mramay

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Haven't had much time to work on the Mercedes since we just sold the old house and bought a new one. We only moved eight miles but I've been unpacking for weeks!! At least most of the pictures are hung now. I only have four more fans and two more chandeliers to hang. The house has a two-car garage, which will be used for completing the SEC and a 1-car garage, which is presently used to store the rest of the boxes that we haven't yet unpacked. That 1-car will be used by a car "shortly".

The photo of the garage shows the new 4-post lift, the engine back on the right and the tranny on the floor to it's right. Within a couple weeks, all the moving boxes will be gone and the garage is mine. I can pull the car stuff out from under the lift and start working on the car again. I have insulated the garage door and will be having an HVAC guy run ducts from the air handler to the garage shortly. That will heat and AC the room!! I've already put down the vinyl floor - 12" self-stick vinyl tiles. Gonna be nice.

I did try headers with the plastic engine and I have some problems. The medium length headers hit the engine compartment on the passenger side and on the driver's side, they go right over the top of the rack & pinion input shaft. The stock Z06 headers go straight down from the heads and the exhaust pipe mounting flange hits the R&P input shaft. Guess I'll be looking at the header manufacturer websites to find one that hugs the block more.

At least everything is in one place and I have (will have) room to work.

drchapar

Hi, I am a new member. I have recently had my LS1 project 95% completed, but on the road. A 2002 Mercedes with LS1 and T-56 6speed. Long Tube Headers, AFR Heads and cam upgrade. This may be the first of such conversions.

Schitzo

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pics,details..... man.