The G-Body Swap Thread
Oil pan question for you guys here. I have my car sitting on 26 OD tires with moog 5660 springs and 2 inch drop spindles sitting around 26 inches fender height. I plan to go down another inch if possible. I need a new solution for my oil pan....I have a leak and more than likely will need a new gasket.
That being said, any of you guys think that you can jack the motor up enough to have enough room to drop the pan and remove it without pulling the motor? I have just had my trans out being swapped for a new one, all put back together to see a oil leak of the pan right about the cross member and its enough to not want to drive it and risk the thousands and thousands of $$ invested.
I am not satisfied with my ls1 oil pan and my buddy has a autokraft pan in his with loads of clearance. I plan to be lower than him so pan to ground clearance is a huge issue. So my question really is, 1) will the pan be able to be swapped if the motor is jacked up enough without having to pull the motor out, and 2) is there a ''cheaper'' cost pan that does not hang lower than the cradle ? I have 1 inch setbacks so that should help out where the motor sits compared to the cradle.
That being said, any of you guys think that you can jack the motor up enough to have enough room to drop the pan and remove it without pulling the motor? I have just had my trans out being swapped for a new one, all put back together to see a oil leak of the pan right about the cross member and its enough to not want to drive it and risk the thousands and thousands of $$ invested.
I am not satisfied with my ls1 oil pan and my buddy has a autokraft pan in his with loads of clearance. I plan to be lower than him so pan to ground clearance is a huge issue. So my question really is, 1) will the pan be able to be swapped if the motor is jacked up enough without having to pull the motor out, and 2) is there a ''cheaper'' cost pan that does not hang lower than the cradle ? I have 1 inch setbacks so that should help out where the motor sits compared to the cradle.
To llorracs93s10 , I unbolted my motor mounts and jacked mine up and pulled my truck pan off. It was super tight if i remember. The cts-v pan will still hang below the crossmember depending on which motor mounts you use. 2in drop spindles and you plan on lowering it more , go with the autocraft if the budget allows it. Though if the fbody pan fits now i would re use that as a cheaper option if its only a gasket issue.
To llorracs93s10 , I unbolted my motor mounts and jacked mine up and pulled my truck pan off. It was super tight if i remember. The cts-v pan will still hang below the crossmember depending on which motor mounts you use. 2in drop spindles and you plan on lowering it more , go with the autocraft if the budget allows it. Though if the fbody pan fits now i would re use that as a cheaper option if its only a gasket issue.
The pan is in perfect condition I just need a different setup.
Anyone here manage to fit a Fbody pan without cutting the frame? I know some have and i'm trying to get a idea on how it will sit i dont have a A/C box or comp. to worry about and i'm flexable on the mounts. I know lots use the CTSV pan which is about 1" shorter in the front sump area. Any pics are helpful of either pan!
Anyone here manage to fit a Fbody pan without cutting the frame? I know some have and i'm trying to get a idea on how it will sit i dont have a A/C box or comp. to worry about and i'm flexable on the mounts. I know lots use the CTSV pan which is about 1" shorter in the front sump area. Any pics are helpful of either pan!
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Tried to read all the pages, what engine mounts do I use? I currently have the moroso solid mounts in the car from my bbc. What part numbers do I need to put a 5.3 in the car with a powerglide trans with a iceman tubular x member?
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To use the Iceman cross member without modification you need to use 1in setback mounts.
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I'm sorry but this thread would probably only be 33 pages long if people would read it instead of different people asking the same questions over and over.
However there are lots of ways to go about it with a gbody swap, almost every G-body swap is different on here.. People need to be more detailed with question.
A/C or no?
Stock trans location/or reuse driveshaft or no?
Headers or stock manifolds?
Etc etc.
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No I haven't, but I'll see if I can round up a GTO alternator tomorrow and have a go at it. Are you running a quick ratio Saginaw 700 power steering box (Monte Carlo SS/similar), or do you have the standard 605 power steering box? The compatibility with various accessory drive set-ups differs depending on which steering box you have in your car.
Anyone here manage to fit a Fbody pan without cutting the frame? I know some have and i'm trying to get a idea on how it will sit i dont have a A/C box or comp. to worry about and i'm flexable on the mounts. I know lots use the CTSV pan which is about 1" shorter in the front sump area. Any pics are helpful of either pan!
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You have more fitment options accessory wise with that box, so you are fortunate. I've not yet been able to confirm fitment of the GTO alternator with that box yet as we currently have a Delphi 600 box bolted up to the frame rail and it will remain there until next week. However, here's what I do know for those following:
If you are going to run the standard Saginaw 605 power steering box (the standard box on all G-bodies besides the Monte Carlo SS, Grand National and Turbo Regal) then you can run the truck, Corvette, CTS-V and Holley accessory drives and you'll need to swap in a smaller P/S pump pulley on the Corvette, CTS-V and Holley set-ups.
If you have the Saginaw quick ratio 700 series box installed on your car, or plan to upgrade to one, you'll have bolt-in fitment compatibility with the truck, F-body and GTO accessory drive set-ups. If the GTO alternator ends up not fitting, you'll have to swap an F-body alternator into the GTO bracket.
The frame can be notched on the passenger side to accommodate the installation of the truck A/C compressor, but no other low-mount compressors have been checked for similar adaptability at this point.
Holley offers compressor top-mount brackets for both the R4 and Sanden compressors for ease of installation.
If you are going to run the standard Saginaw 605 power steering box (the standard box on all G-bodies besides the Monte Carlo SS, Grand National and Turbo Regal) then you can run the truck, Corvette, CTS-V and Holley accessory drives and you'll need to swap in a smaller P/S pump pulley on the Corvette, CTS-V and Holley set-ups.
If you have the Saginaw quick ratio 700 series box installed on your car, or plan to upgrade to one, you'll have bolt-in fitment compatibility with the truck, F-body and GTO accessory drive set-ups. If the GTO alternator ends up not fitting, you'll have to swap an F-body alternator into the GTO bracket.
The frame can be notched on the passenger side to accommodate the installation of the truck A/C compressor, but no other low-mount compressors have been checked for similar adaptability at this point.
Holley offers compressor top-mount brackets for both the R4 and Sanden compressors for ease of installation.
I would love to see the pis of the F body pan installed if you can find it i have some lead way on the mounts and can probably slide the engine back a bit more being i have no heater box.