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Old Feb 20, 2015 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Toddoky
The standard run-of-mill power steering box used in G-bodies was the Saginaw 605 box. It has a bulkier casting than the quick ratio 700 series box in the area of the pulley to accommodate a drilled internal hydraulic passage that travels through the casting. Having the quick ratio box is a real plus when doing a swap in a G-body for clearance issues as well as for the improved steering performance it provides. You shouldn't have any clearance problems with the stock truck P/S pulley.
Todd, What series p/s pump is in the 07 Trailblazer SS?
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Old Feb 20, 2015 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Toddoky
The standard run-of-mill power steering box used in G-bodies was the Saginaw 605 box. It has a bulkier casting than the quick ratio 700 series box in the area of the pulley to accommodate a drilled internal hydraulic passage that travels through the casting. Having the quick ratio box is a real plus when doing a swap in a G-body for clearance issues as well as for the improved steering performance it provides. You shouldn't have any clearance problems with the stock truck P/S pulley.
Is this also true with an L92 with VVT? I seem to remember seeing some guys using a pulley from a Lucerne.
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Old Feb 20, 2015 | 01:55 PM
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Wow a lot of info in this thread. I am working on a 5.3 swap into my 87 GN. My rods show up this week then off to the machine shop with the block and 317 heads, putting compstar 6.125 rods in with wiseco 5.3 pistons. I have a stage 2 Extreme Automatics 200-4R that I am gonna use initially to get the car driving and then will save for a 4L80e over the next winter.
Sounds like a fun project. The stage 2 200-R4 that Extreme Automatics put together is a stout transmission. What intake and throttle body do you plan to use? You will need a cable set up for the TV cable. If you go with a 4L80 you will need a newer (E38) ECM to control it.
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Old Feb 20, 2015 | 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by gmtony55
Todd, What series p/s pump is in the 07 Trailblazer SS?
I'm not familiar with those vehicles, so I can't say.
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Old Feb 20, 2015 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by L92 OLDS
Is this also true with an L92 with VVT? I seem to remember seeing some guys using a pulley from a Lucerne.
Look up the build thread for user jimmyg, he's using the Hooker system of components and retained the functionality of VVT on his engine.
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Old Feb 20, 2015 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by L92 OLDS
If you go with a 4L80 you will need a newer (E38) ECM to control it.
Not true. You only need a newer OS flashed onto the older PCM's.
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Old Feb 22, 2015 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by L92 OLDS
Sounds like a fun project. The stage 2 200-R4 that Extreme Automatics put together is a stout transmission. What intake and throttle body do you plan to use? You will need a cable set up for the TV cable. If you go with a 4L80 you will need a newer (E38) ECM to control it.
I have been back and forth. I keep looking for a deal on an LS6 but they seem to be getting harder to come by. I am leaning towards a Vic Jr. + elbow setup. I think a company makes a bracket for the TV setup as well as the adapter kit for the flywheel torque converter. Forgot to mention I also have a 9.5" 3000 stall TC.

I have been hearing the 411 pcm's can basically be setup for anything with the right OS, any truth to this? Wiring and PCM is a bridge I will have to cross later after I my turbo picked out and figure out placement, but I am looking heavily at the PCI harness.
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Old Feb 24, 2015 | 03:23 PM
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great info
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Old Feb 24, 2015 | 04:09 PM
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I had asked that in the Hooker thread and we are unsure. I currently have the V pan only motor but bought the full shebang from Hooker for the GBody swap - my V pan has twin drains for a turbo setup I am not doing. Anyhow the holley/hooker setup sets the motor back .75" approx v. something like the carshop 1" set back plates. It would be very close and looks like it might, but I'd be concerned about steering arm clearances.

When I get everything in I'll do some measuring and mock up for you.

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I have the CTSv Pan and the current Hooker mounts. The steering arms clear but it is pretty darn close. I measured the depth of the front of the pan and it's 1.75 which is the same as the Holley swap pan I believe.
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Old Feb 24, 2015 | 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Streetracer09
I have the CTSv Pan and the current Hooker mounts. The steering arms clear but it is pretty darn close. I measured the depth of the front of the pan and it's 1.75 which is the same as the Holley swap pan I believe.
I'm glad to hear the CTSV pan fits with the Hooker engine brackets as I did not have the opportunity to test fit any pan other than the Holley 302-2 during the development of the Hooker components. As a note, the front of the 302-2 pan is 1.25" tall and the sump is shorter than the sump on the CTSV pan, so it will provide more clearance everywhere.

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Old Feb 25, 2015 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Streetracer09
I have the CTSv Pan and the current Hooker mounts. The steering arms clear but it is pretty darn close. I measured the depth of the front of the pan and it's 1.75 which is the same as the Holley swap pan I believe.
Does it hang below the cross member at all? It would be great if you can post some picks.
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Old Feb 26, 2015 | 06:23 AM
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Guess that mounted the ecm in the interior of the car:

I have a PSI conversions harness to go into my car and I have questions where/how you guys mounted the ECM. I have a TCM, ECM and the fuse box to deal with.....so it is a bit more challenging.
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Originally Posted by Fry_
Does it hang below the cross member at all? It would be great if you can post some picks.
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Old Feb 28, 2015 | 09:05 PM
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Awesome pics. I guess one thing I am not seeing with the CTS-V pan is why there is interference with running AC? Has anyone though about trying to adapt the GN's accessory drive to the LS motor? I keep thinking of ways to run AC and put a turbo on the car but I guess I will tackle that when the time comes.
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Old Feb 28, 2015 | 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Blackbuick 1987
Awesome pics. I guess one thing I am not seeing with the CTS-V pan is why there is interference with running AC? Has anyone though about trying to adapt the GN's accessory drive to the LS motor? I keep thinking of ways to run AC and put a turbo on the car but I guess I will tackle that when the time comes.
The easiest way to run a/c with a turbo setup is to to forget about a top mount setup and run a stock low mount compressor. The truck compressors fit in a g-body with little to no frame mods.
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Old Feb 28, 2015 | 11:27 PM
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If I had the time and could work in Peace I would make the AC work. Fact is I'm under the gun dealing with time, kids, house, limited shop time etc...

I have some other pictures that show the steering knuckles when fully turned. The passenger side doesn't come close but the drivers side just barely skims it. It's like the width of a mosquito wing so I'm going to let it fly and monitor it closely.
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Old Mar 2, 2015 | 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by llorracs93s10
Guess that mounted the ecm in the interior of the car:

I have a PSI conversions harness to go into my car and I have questions where/how you guys mounted the ECM. I have a TCM, ECM and the fuse box to deal with.....so it is a bit more challenging.
I also have the PSI harness. I still trying to figure out where to mount it. At first I wanted it to go in the stock location of the Monte ECM but the LS1 PCM is simply too large. I'd like to see if I can put the fuse box in the kick panel location and the pcm somewhere close by.
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I also have the PSI harness. I still trying to figure out where to mount it. At first I wanted it to go in the stock location of the Monte ECM but the LS1 PCM is simply too large. I'd like to see if I can put the fuse box in the kick panel location and the pcm somewhere close by.
yea, like-wise. I have a tcm even though it is only about 4x4 in size (inches) but still another hurdle to deal with. I had my current setup mounted in the engine bay, but I would assume it would look god awful if they were mounted there and not having the harness routed how it should have been.
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Posting what radiator hoses I used here to maybe help others.

Im using a Dewitt G body LS swap radiator, it's a dual crossflow, both fittings are on the passenger side.

Lower radiator hose is a Dayco PN 71968. It is long & had to be cut to fit. It doesnt hit anything.
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Upper hose is Dayco 71981, it fit perfectly, no trimming at all. May not fit for you if you are using a different water pump.
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My motor is starting to look more complete. I used the Corvette C6 accessories and they were pretty darn bolt on.


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I sat the turbo down to start taking measurements. I'm going to go with the truck manifold on the drivers side and the custom log header with crossover to the rear.


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