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Old 09-15-2008 | 11:20 PM
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I put the SPC arms on while I still had the b-body spindles. I am not using ATS spindles. The lowers are from Global West.

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what spindles are you using?
Old 09-15-2008 | 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by the450r
what spindles are you using?
Sorry. I meant to say that I AM using the ATS spindles. You can see them in the pictures.

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Old 09-18-2008 | 10:37 AM
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Here is a link to some pictures from last weekend's Run Through The Hills IV event. Good times!

Run Through the Hills pictures

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Old 09-18-2008 | 01:55 PM
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Andrew,
What's your thoughts on the ATS spindles? Were they worth the upgrade?

I'd like get a set, but having a hard time choking down the cost.
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Andrew,
What's your thoughts on the ATS spindles? Were they worth the upgrade?

I'd like get a set, but having a hard time choking down the cost.
I can't really comment as to how the ATS spindles compare to stock, because my car hasn't been stock in a VERY long time. I can tell you that it is a completely different experience driving the car with the ATS spindles compared to the b-body spindles that I had before. The bump steer is totally gone and the car tracks straight as an arrow even on roads that are bumpy. With the b-body spindles the car would dart around when one wheel would hit a bump and the other one didn't. It was a little unnerving.

In addition to the great improvement in geometry, the ATS spindles offer numerous bolt on brake systems. Everything from stock C5, Z51, C6 Z06, or any aftermarket C5/C6 system will bolt right on.

I would say that adding the ATS spindles made as much difference in the drivability as adding the LSx engine.

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Old 09-18-2008 | 09:15 PM
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Great car Andrew!!!! I been following this thread for awhile and I just finished thumbing through the Run Through The Hills IV pics. I was hoping you had more information about this 70' Chevelle pictured. I have one and would like to copy some pieces of the car.
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Great car Andrew!!!! I been following this thread for awhile and I just finished thumbing through the Run Through The Hills IV pics. I was hoping you had more information about this 70' Chevelle pictured. I have one and would like to copy some pieces of the car.
Thanks for the compliments. That Chevelle was brought by The Roadster Shop. It had one of their custom frames under it, along with an LS7/T56 combo. The car was still in the process of being finished. The interior was stripped, but it ran very well in the autocross. Hope that helps.

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Originally Posted by Project GatTagO
I can't really comment as to how the ATS spindles compare to stock, because my car hasn't been stock in a VERY long time. I can tell you that it is a completely different experience driving the car with the ATS spindles compared to the b-body spindles that I had before. The bump steer is totally gone and the car tracks straight as an arrow even on roads that are bumpy. With the b-body spindles the car would dart around when one wheel would hit a bump and the other one didn't. It was a little unnerving.

In addition to the great improvement in geometry, the ATS spindles offer numerous bolt on brake systems. Everything from stock C5, Z51, C6 Z06, or any aftermarket C5/C6 system will bolt right on.

I would say that adding the ATS spindles made as much difference in the drivability as adding the LSx engine.

Andrew
Thanks! that's what I was looking for. Basically a comparison to your old setup.
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Awesome project!
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Awesome project!
Thank you!

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Old 10-20-2008 | 03:09 PM
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Also digging the new sig pic!
Those black centered wheels look great, and action shots dumdumdum!
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I took the car to the track this Saturday. The weather was awesome. Clear skies, dry, and high 60s. I only made 3 passes because my time was limited and there were a ton of people at the track. All passes were made without fooling around with tire pressure or shock settings. Drove it right off the street, into the staging lanes. My first pass netted the best MPH to date; 112.31 MPH. The second pass netted a my best ET to date:

60' 2.064
1/4 12.602
MPH 110.97

This is my last trip to the track for this year and I am very pleased.

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So I gave Autometer a call to see what words of wisdom they may have for me. Basically they told me that they have been unsuccessful in making their tachometers work with the low voltage signal that comes off late model ECU output wires. Their suggestion was to purchase the 9117 box that taps directly into the coil harness and converts the signal (whatever that means) to a square wave that can be read by the tach. My initial reaction is that this is BS, to get me to buy an $80 dollar box that costs them 5 bucks (at most) to make. I am going back to Radio Shack for a collection of 99 cent resistors.

This brings up another point. Why couldn't the GM engineer who worked on the GMPP harness pick up the phone and dial up Autometer, VDO, and Stewart Warner? Between those 3 brands I bet you will cover 95% of the aftermarket gauge market. It would have been a 15 minute discussion to determine what these tachometers need in order to function properly. The information could have been easily outline in the harness instructions. Instead, they put this in the documentation of the harness:

"Note the signal is a low voltage square wave, some older style of tachometers may need a pull-up resistor in order to read the signal -- this detail is left to the user"

WTF?!?!?!

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Andrew did you ever figure out how to get the correct signal to your autometer tach? If so how did you go about doing this?

Thanks
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Andrew did you ever figure out how to get the correct signal to your autometer tach? If so how did you go about doing this?

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Post #114, page 12.

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Old 11-28-2008 | 04:46 PM
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Any luck with tracking your vibration down?
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Originally Posted by xbreed
nice lookin build young man
Yes Sir. If you read some pages back you can get all of the details. Basically it turned out that the rear end pinion yoke was not machined properly. I replaced it and the vibration just about went away.

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Old 12-18-2008 | 11:56 PM
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where did you get the piece that goes over top of the rad and connects to the rad support that has the holes punched in it?
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Originally Posted by ral_fradet
where did you get the piece that goes over top of the rad and connects to the rad support that has the holes punched in it?
That piece was custom made.

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Old 12-20-2008 | 11:51 AM
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At this point I am not buying that story.
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At this point I am not buying that story.
What story is that?

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