Stock ls6 motor traps 130+
12-17-2012, 10:31 PM
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Wow there are some ignorant ******** in this thread. My buddy Ron (98tadriver on here) runs 10.7s at 125 in his bolt on only LS1 vette at the same track in similar conditions with a very similar raceweight. I can see gaining 5mph from the ls6 cam and 243 heads that are on an LS6 equipped car...
I wish I could afford a Z06!!! I would love to tinker with one.
12-18-2012, 12:05 AM
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Yea kinda......I still turn all my accessories though.
I seen his thread. He has done a badass job with that car. His 60' is insane!! My car is not drag oriented enough for it to 60 very well.....atleast not with the 10bolt. His 1.38 60' must feel like he's being shot out of a cannon. No one seems to question a ls1 goin 122-125 but for some reason people are quick to cry foul on a ls6 goin 130. Which like you said seems about right. I know my car has some left in it. I'm sure vetteboy's does to.
I wish I could afford a Z06!!! I would love to tinker with one.
I seen his thread. He has done a badass job with that car. His 60' is insane!! My car is not drag oriented enough for it to 60 very well.....atleast not with the 10bolt. His 1.38 60' must feel like he's being shot out of a cannon. No one seems to question a ls1 goin 122-125 but for some reason people are quick to cry foul on a ls6 goin 130. Which like you said seems about right. I know my car has some left in it. I'm sure vetteboy's does to.
I wish I could afford a Z06!!! I would love to tinker with one.
compared to my 98mph 1/8th on a 1.38 60' lol. Nobody's ever pushed a C5z to its max potential like these guys have, just like Nobody has pushed a LS1 C5 like myself. The b.s. flags come with the territory I suppose. I'm really tempted to throw a pair of stock LS6 heads and a stock LS6 cam in my car to see how it does lol. Quick question though- Maybe I missed something, but I only see a 129mph trap. where is the 130+ coming from? Last edited by 98TADRIVER; 12-18-2012 at 12:13 AM.
12-18-2012, 01:02 AM
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I went through the same "bs calling posts" with my bolt on LS1 C5 running 10.75 and trapping 124mph. The part that blows me away is his 105mph 1/8th on a 1.66 60' compared to my 98mph 1/8th on a 1.38 60' lol. Nobody's ever pushed a C5z to its max potential like these guys have, just like Nobody has pushed a LS1 C5 like myself. The b.s. flags come with the territory I suppose. I'm really tempted to throw a pair of stock LS6 heads and a stock LS6 cam in my car to see how it does lol. Quick question though- Maybe I missed something, but I only see a 129mph trap. where is the 130+ coming from?
compared to my 98mph 1/8th on a 1.38 60' lol. Nobody's ever pushed a C5z to its max potential like these guys have, just like Nobody has pushed a LS1 C5 like myself. The b.s. flags come with the territory I suppose. I'm really tempted to throw a pair of stock LS6 heads and a stock LS6 cam in my car to see how it does lol. Quick question though- Maybe I missed something, but I only see a 129mph trap. where is the 130+ coming from?saw your post on svtperformance and i dont remember anyone calling BS (except for the one guy that said a stall isnt considered a bolt on)
your time appears to be on par with your mods and i believe i mentioned it on svtperformance.
12-18-2012, 01:12 AM
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Yea, why don't you go back about 2 years and give us that.... or maybe you need a delorean so you can go back to the future for that. You only need to go 88 mph and with your unmatched speed skills that should be no problem, Hopefully you don't have those iridium plugs in it too.
nah its ok. never really got any help here to begin with and 10yrs later nothing has seemed to change. wound up fixing the problem myself. it was a bad coil.
i come here to read the kill stories and see what progress the ls motors make against the competition.
hope you dont catch my car at a light ; )
12-18-2012, 01:20 AM
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Wow there are some ignorant ******** in this thread. My buddy Ron (98tadriver on here) runs 10.7s at 125 in his bolt on only LS1 vette at the same track in similar conditions with a very similar raceweight. I can see gaining 5mph from the ls6 cam and 243 heads that are on an LS6 equipped car...
like i said...point has been made (parasitic loss,weight reduction , aerodynamics, etc. etc)
ive already made it a point to disagree and lets leave it at that. no need to continue the rant.
12-18-2012, 01:56 AM
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guess ill be that guy and say BS! not that your car cant run those times, but that you're saying your "bolt-on" c5z06 is running with cars that make 200-300 more at the wheels and lighter than a heavy C5...
so you want us to believe your c5z06 is on par with an enzo ferrari that makes high 500's to the wheels and is lighter than you? gtfo!
with you trying to post that, you're basically trying to tell other c5z06 owners in a very non schalant way that "everyone is stupid and doesn't know how to drive and buying h/c for your ls6 is a waste of time because a silly intake and exhaust will give you a 10 second timeslip and 130+ mph trap speeds...."
now im all for z06's running high 10's (its been done before) , but for you and hioSS to sit here and tell us you pick up mph in the back end like cars that make waaay more than you do (and are waaaaay lighter than a vette or fbody) is not possible.
if you both knew something that no one else did, im sure you would've opened you're own performance shop by now because if you can make a vette/camaro run those trap speeds, you definetly have a gold mine of an idea and make a killer living.
but the reality is that you're running something else to get those trap speeds (n20,h/c) etc. and are unwilling to come forward and admit it and have everyone just sit here and swallow this.
let me ask you both this: so because your "untouched, forced induction-less" get such good times with I/E , your saying that with a small shot of n20 or a small amount of boost from a turbo, your car will be in the 8's at 145+?
man i wish either one of you lived out here; id love to shine up a bolt-on c5 z06 from a dig or a roll just to make a point. it wud be puppy kicking but it would be worth it.
no need to reply back as i already know what your reply will contain : " ...believe what you want, it happened!" , "...my car is fast and nobody can drive like me" "....you should've bought an ls6 instead of an evo..." " ..Jupiter and the north star were aligned correctly thus giving me optimal track conditions " and blah blah blah.
so you want us to believe your c5z06 is on par with an enzo ferrari that makes high 500's to the wheels and is lighter than you? gtfo!
with you trying to post that, you're basically trying to tell other c5z06 owners in a very non schalant way that "everyone is stupid and doesn't know how to drive and buying h/c for your ls6 is a waste of time because a silly intake and exhaust will give you a 10 second timeslip and 130+ mph trap speeds...."
now im all for z06's running high 10's (its been done before) , but for you and hioSS to sit here and tell us you pick up mph in the back end like cars that make waaay more than you do (and are waaaaay lighter than a vette or fbody) is not possible.
if you both knew something that no one else did, im sure you would've opened you're own performance shop by now because if you can make a vette/camaro run those trap speeds, you definetly have a gold mine of an idea and make a killer living.
but the reality is that you're running something else to get those trap speeds (n20,h/c) etc. and are unwilling to come forward and admit it and have everyone just sit here and swallow this.
let me ask you both this: so because your "untouched, forced induction-less" get such good times with I/E , your saying that with a small shot of n20 or a small amount of boost from a turbo, your car will be in the 8's at 145+?
man i wish either one of you lived out here; id love to shine up a bolt-on c5 z06 from a dig or a roll just to make a point. it wud be puppy kicking but it would be worth it.
no need to reply back as i already know what your reply will contain : " ...believe what you want, it happened!" , "...my car is fast and nobody can drive like me" "....you should've bought an ls6 instead of an evo..." " ..Jupiter and the north star were aligned correctly thus giving me optimal track conditions " and blah blah blah.
...cause its not...plain and simple.
not saying a vette cant dip into 10s (im on board with that) ; but these clowns are posting up mph's that h/c AND n20 vette's produce.
heck, STOCK C6Z06's that are LIGHTER and more POWERFUL have a hard time trapping mid 120's; and that LS7 is FAR SUPERIOR to an LS6; and yet one guy with a vette claims hes trapping 130 with I/E and the other with a heavy catfish claims hes trapping higher with less HP...
now if i was the only guy here starting crap and making a big deal about it, i deserve to get clowned and ridiculed and what not...;but Hio has his own thread dedicated to his mysterious BS mph so im not the only one..
i would love to see these cars line up against a terminator, 5.0, H/C Ls1, evo (roll,dig, whatever). and if there are videos, please direct me to them.
not saying a vette cant dip into 10s (im on board with that) ; but these clowns are posting up mph's that h/c AND n20 vette's produce.
heck, STOCK C6Z06's that are LIGHTER and more POWERFUL have a hard time trapping mid 120's; and that LS7 is FAR SUPERIOR to an LS6; and yet one guy with a vette claims hes trapping 130 with I/E and the other with a heavy catfish claims hes trapping higher with less HP...
now if i was the only guy here starting crap and making a big deal about it, i deserve to get clowned and ridiculed and what not...;but Hio has his own thread dedicated to his mysterious BS mph so im not the only one..
i would love to see these cars line up against a terminator, 5.0, H/C Ls1, evo (roll,dig, whatever). and if there are videos, please direct me to them.
Heavy catfish? His car is under 3K #s.... He also has a face plated trans and I would say even better aerodynamics with the mods he has done.
If you knew ANYTHING about his car and had ANY common sense, you wouldn't call BS.
Also... FWIW... There are multiple other ls6 setups that have claimed almost identical 0' 1/8 and 1/4 ETs and MPHs. You think they all lied and all have the same power adder/cam/etc? LOL What does it sound like to me? A full bolt on Ls6s potential is 10s @ 130+.
I went through the same "bs calling posts" with my bolt on LS1 C5 running 10.75 and trapping 124mph. The part that blows me away is his 105mph 1/8th on a 1.66 60' compared to my 98mph 1/8th on a 1.38 60' lol. Nobody's ever pushed a C5z to its max potential like these guys have, just like Nobody has pushed a LS1 C5 like myself. The b.s. flags come with the territory I suppose. I'm really tempted to throw a pair of stock LS6 heads and a stock LS6 cam in my car to see how it does lol. Quick question though- Maybe I missed something, but I only see a 129mph trap. where is the 130+ coming from?
compared to my 98mph 1/8th on a 1.38 60' lol. Nobody's ever pushed a C5z to its max potential like these guys have, just like Nobody has pushed a LS1 C5 like myself. The b.s. flags come with the territory I suppose. I'm really tempted to throw a pair of stock LS6 heads and a stock LS6 cam in my car to see how it does lol. Quick question though- Maybe I missed something, but I only see a 129mph trap. where is the 130+ coming from?
Add a better cam/heads and a manual, what is there to not believe?
Can you not see how dumb you sound?
Bolt on fbody ls1 record bolt ons...
RUQWIKR -------- 10.685 @ 122.91 (1.37), 01 Formula T400, ATI4600, 4.56, 3060
This is a large stalled auto, very low gears, weighing more than Hio... I will also assume it is not as well "thought out" as Hios either. He has done things 9% of people wouldn't waste time on. BTW.. Not only is his car lighter, a ton of it is rotational mass.
Does this really not add up in your head?
Here is another:
Promod1955 ----- 11.030 @ 124.18 (1.45), 00 Camaro SS A4, YPT4400, 3.73, 3085, 04/09
And you think this guy trapping 121 had full bolt ons? Or went to the length Hio did?
RAGEman -------- 11.568 @ 121.13 (1.71), 01 Camaro Z28 M6, stock, 3.42, 3200, 03/02
Stock gears weighing 300$ more and making much less power.
OMG, they keep coming..
dennis50nj ----- 10.626 @ 126.98 (1.41), 05 Coupe A4, Vig3800, 3.73, 3180, 03/09
An auto with a large converter, weighing more.... Trapping only 4mph less. You don't think with a n M6 would be right at 130? Let alone dropping weight.
LS1LT1 --------- 10.788 @ 127.29 (1.51), 06 Coupe A4, 3200 Vig, 2.56, 3240, 12/11
Look at this... Another stalled auto... but 2.56 gears, similar heads/cam, weighing a good bit more... Only 3mph less.
HIO/OP you're full of ****.
12-18-2012, 02:12 AM
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Id would say congrats on a well built car for its purpose.I see no reason why this isnt possible.Keep in mind this car is built for the 1/4 mile and optimized for such. I wouldnt doubt almost every nut and bolt on the car hasnt been touched atleast once to take the car apart..lighten anything possible.The motor is stock..but Im sure nothing else on the car is stock behind it.The details and time spent to dial it in is what got the car where it is..not sheer brute power most of us chase after.
12-18-2012, 06:46 AM
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I went through the same "bs calling posts" with my bolt on LS1 C5 running 10.75 and trapping 124mph. The part that blows me away is his 105mph 1/8th on a 1.66 60' compared to my 98mph 1/8th on a 1.38 60' lol. Nobody's ever pushed a C5z to its max potential like these guys have, just like Nobody has pushed a LS1 C5 like myself. The b.s. flags come with the territory I suppose. I'm really tempted to throw a pair of stock LS6 heads and a stock LS6 cam in my car to see how it does lol. Quick question though- Maybe I missed something, but I only see a 129mph trap. where is the 130+ coming from?
compared to my 98mph 1/8th on a 1.38 60' lol. Nobody's ever pushed a C5z to its max potential like these guys have, just like Nobody has pushed a LS1 C5 like myself. The b.s. flags come with the territory I suppose. I'm really tempted to throw a pair of stock LS6 heads and a stock LS6 cam in my car to see how it does lol. Quick question though- Maybe I missed something, but I only see a 129mph trap. where is the 130+ coming from?For real.
So 98tadriver's times/mph is on par......but with 60 hp more a bolt-on ls6 with a m6 is not suppose to trap more? You might want to think before you answer.
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Hmmmmm... Odd.
Read between the lines... How many people do you know that do EVERYTHING they can to get EVERYTHING they can out of their mods? I don't know ANY personally, a few record holders online.
No, that thread didn't start out like that.
Heavy catfish? His car is under 3K #s.... He also has a face plated trans and I would say even better aerodynamics with the mods he has done.
If you knew ANYTHING about his car and had ANY common sense, you wouldn't call BS.
Also... FWIW... There are multiple other ls6 setups that have claimed almost identical 0' 1/8 and 1/4 ETs and MPHs. You think they all lied and all have the same power adder/cam/etc? LOL What does it sound like to me? A full bolt on Ls6s potential is 10s @ 130+.
124mph STALLED AUTO!
Add a better cam/heads and a manual, what is there to not believe?
So a full bolt on stalled a4 trapping 124 is "on par"... But some of the fastst m6 full bolt on cars are IMPOSSIBLE to hit 130 without a power adder?
Can you not see how dumb you sound?
Bolt on fbody ls1 record bolt ons...
RUQWIKR -------- 10.685 @ 122.91 (1.37), 01 Formula T400, ATI4600, 4.56, 3060
This is a large stalled auto, very low gears, weighing more than Hio... I will also assume it is not as well "thought out" as Hios either. He has done things 9% of people wouldn't waste time on. BTW.. Not only is his car lighter, a ton of it is rotational mass.
Does this really not add up in your head?
Here is another:
Promod1955 ----- 11.030 @ 124.18 (1.45), 00 Camaro SS A4, YPT4400, 3.73, 3085, 04/09
And you think this guy trapping 121 had full bolt ons? Or went to the length Hio did?
RAGEman -------- 11.568 @ 121.13 (1.71), 01 Camaro Z28 M6, stock, 3.42, 3200, 03/02
Stock gears weighing 300$ more and making much less power.
OMG, they keep coming..
dennis50nj ----- 10.626 @ 126.98 (1.41), 05 Coupe A4, Vig3800, 3.73, 3180, 03/09
An auto with a large converter, weighing more.... Trapping only 4mph less. You don't think with a n M6 would be right at 130? Let alone dropping weight.
LS1LT1 --------- 10.788 @ 127.29 (1.51), 06 Coupe A4, 3200 Vig, 2.56, 3240, 12/11
Look at this... Another stalled auto... but 2.56 gears, similar heads/cam, weighing a good bit more... Only 3mph less.
HIO/OP you're full of ****.
Read between the lines... How many people do you know that do EVERYTHING they can to get EVERYTHING they can out of their mods? I don't know ANY personally, a few record holders online.
No, that thread didn't start out like that.
Heavy catfish? His car is under 3K #s.... He also has a face plated trans and I would say even better aerodynamics with the mods he has done.
If you knew ANYTHING about his car and had ANY common sense, you wouldn't call BS.
Also... FWIW... There are multiple other ls6 setups that have claimed almost identical 0' 1/8 and 1/4 ETs and MPHs. You think they all lied and all have the same power adder/cam/etc? LOL What does it sound like to me? A full bolt on Ls6s potential is 10s @ 130+.
124mph STALLED AUTO!
Add a better cam/heads and a manual, what is there to not believe?
So a full bolt on stalled a4 trapping 124 is "on par"... But some of the fastst m6 full bolt on cars are IMPOSSIBLE to hit 130 without a power adder?
Can you not see how dumb you sound?
Bolt on fbody ls1 record bolt ons...
RUQWIKR -------- 10.685 @ 122.91 (1.37), 01 Formula T400, ATI4600, 4.56, 3060
This is a large stalled auto, very low gears, weighing more than Hio... I will also assume it is not as well "thought out" as Hios either. He has done things 9% of people wouldn't waste time on. BTW.. Not only is his car lighter, a ton of it is rotational mass.
Does this really not add up in your head?
Here is another:
Promod1955 ----- 11.030 @ 124.18 (1.45), 00 Camaro SS A4, YPT4400, 3.73, 3085, 04/09
And you think this guy trapping 121 had full bolt ons? Or went to the length Hio did?
RAGEman -------- 11.568 @ 121.13 (1.71), 01 Camaro Z28 M6, stock, 3.42, 3200, 03/02
Stock gears weighing 300$ more and making much less power.
OMG, they keep coming..
dennis50nj ----- 10.626 @ 126.98 (1.41), 05 Coupe A4, Vig3800, 3.73, 3180, 03/09
An auto with a large converter, weighing more.... Trapping only 4mph less. You don't think with a n M6 would be right at 130? Let alone dropping weight.
LS1LT1 --------- 10.788 @ 127.29 (1.51), 06 Coupe A4, 3200 Vig, 2.56, 3240, 12/11
Look at this... Another stalled auto... but 2.56 gears, similar heads/cam, weighing a good bit more... Only 3mph less.
HIO/OP you're full of ****.
like i said, we've moved on. points have been made. just going to accept it.
12-18-2012, 09:12 AM
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However i have seen a number of record cars in person and have seen many pics of hios, he has went above and beyond every single record car i have seen, no denying that.
I promise you that record motor put on hios drive line would go faster.
