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Old 08-26-2009, 08:45 PM
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Default Anybody run a clutchless? Liberty perhaps?

thinking down the road, and the cash i'll dump into my manual setup...thinking about either a clutchless setup or just the plan boring TH400

Didn't know what people thoughts who have them?

Price of a Liberty or similar?
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The cost of the tranny alone is like 8k used....... it is not something your average racer runs

Once you start to make some good power a TH-400 is NOT boring.....
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so how much for a TH400 setup, trans brake etc?

Just feel kinda pissed...
Pro 5.0
Spec 5 with 800 miles maybe? less than 10 passes
new Quicktime SFI bellhousing
rebuilt my T56 with all viper components
driveshaft etc
spohn torque arm for a manual


I can keep my 9"
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The problem is 99% of racers out there ditch the manuals for auto's because they can't get consistant or keep breaking parts (clutchless is another story).

It all depends on how fast you want to go. Do a yahoo seach for Rossler Transmisions... that will give you an idea on what a super nice bullet proff tranny with great customer support will run you. If you just want like 500 hp then about an good tranny shop can built you a good one for a lot less.. all just depends on what you want and how reliable you want it...

There are some liberties on the street but they have to put a clutch in the car from what I hear.

If you search on yellowbullet.com there is a TON of info on the clutchless stuff over there.
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well, i'm just debating with myself to stay manual (since i just built it up)

or, while everything is new, to tear it down and throw more cash away for a th400 setup lol
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Stay manual...

You can go with a face plated T56, McLoed Soft Loc and run clutchless. Just need to dump the clutch on the line, and up shift as you go down the track w/o the clutch.

The SoftLoc is setup to come in as rpm goes up, so you can adjust it to have a nice launch just like an auto.
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Originally Posted by WS6TransAm01
Stay manual...

You can go with a face plated T56, McLoed Soft Loc and run clutchless. Just need to dump the clutch on the line, and up shift as you go down the track w/o the clutch.

The SoftLoc is setup to come in as rpm goes up, so you can adjust it to have a nice launch just like an auto.
Hurm...never heard of that...sounds awesome

any more information like a sponsor or pricing? What would I have to modifiy on my T56? I'm assuming it's easier on parts?
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run a manual valve body 400. You get to shift w/o a clutch.
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yeah but then I'm still replacing all of the parts I just installed....

I'm pretty interested in this idea by WS6TransAm01
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i used to run a liberty clutchless in my car-wouldn't think it would make a very good trans for anything but an all out race car-have to hold it in gear(except for high gear)you can't down shift with it.

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not a good idea to downshift a manual valve body auto either. better get you one of those trans shields if you decide to.
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How about a Lenco? http://www.lencoracing.com/ST1200MasterPage.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ji4dCOta1-k

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That's awesome, and some big bucks i'm sure!!?!!

I've seen those before.

still curious about the earlier post.
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Originally Posted by MetallicaMatt
yeah but then I'm still replacing all of the parts I just installed....

I'm pretty interested in this idea by WS6TransAm01
After you sold all the 6 speed stuff you might not have much in a 400...... stock 6 speeds with all the goodies go for like 2k....
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I run a jerico and have everything you would need to go manual clutch linkage setup pm me if you are ever interested. Its like an old camaro with a z -bar it works flawless.

No hydraulics is nice.
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Originally Posted by TOSTO RACING
I run a jerico and have everything you would need to go manual clutch linkage setup pm me if you are ever interested. Its like an old camaro with a z -bar it works flawless.

No hydraulics is nice.
Listen to this guy if you want to stick with a manual tranny he's about the only one in here that's got 100% solid info other then Shawn from VA speed... holding the tranny in gear like he described is not something you can ever drive around, and when you see the cost of a softloc clutch and the life expectancey, you won't want to do that either.
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Originally Posted by TOSTO RACING
I run a jerico and have everything you would need to go manual clutch linkage setup pm me if you are ever interested. Its like an old camaro with a z -bar it works flawless.

No hydraulics is nice.

I'm trying to remember, is the jerico clutchless after the launch?

Please PM me with more information, if anything, I'd love to learn more!!
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Originally Posted by MetallicaMatt
I'm trying to remember, is the jerico clutchless after the launch?

Please PM me with more information, if anything, I'd love to learn more!!

you can order it either way, clutchless or non-clutchless.
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thats one badass setup, you would think with all that tire he could do a lot better than a 9.96 though. With some suspension work that should be a low 9 8 second car.

Oh yeah I've never seen a Lenco street car before that was kinda cool.
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You should check out Larry Larson's Chevy II. Street driven, Lenco, low 7's in the 1/4. Twin Turbo Moran engine. Hot Rod's drag week winner last year.


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