New 6-speed stock internal bolt on time!!
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New 6-speed stock internal bolt on time!!
As many of you guys know, I put a stock internal motor back in my car a few weeks ago. I traded Paul @ Thunder my solid roller setup for his stock internal motor (plus some $$$ <img src="gr_tounge.gif" border="0"> ). After driving the car on the street the past few weeks, it defintely felt slow compared to my old setup <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0"> I didn't know what to expect when I would finally be able to run the car.
A group of about 20 cars made the trip to Eunice today. The track is normally prepped very well, but it wasn't hooking well for most. That coupled w/ the upper 60 degree and humid weather, I wasn't expecting very much out of the car. Boy, was I wrong.. <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">
1st pass off the street:
60' ... 1.693
1/8 ... 7.536
1/4 ... 11.801
mph ... 115.660
After this, the track kept getting worse and worse. I was able to run 11.84 (1.71 60') and 11.87 (1.74 60'). I was leaving at 5k rpms w/ 14psi in the ET Drags. Considering the car wasn't leaving as good as could, I was VERY happy! <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0">
Temp was 69*, 64% humidity, and a baro. of 30.08. Raceweight was around 3450.
Here is a list of my mods: Whisper lid, stock MAF, stock fuel/timing maps, Grotyohann headers w/ 3" custom off-road, Hooker catback, LS6 intake, ASP pulley, ported TB, Fast-Toys ram air kit, Moser 12-bolt w/ 4:30s, Mcleod prototype iron disk setup, Thunder Racing custom tuning, Prostars (front/rear) w/ 26x10x15 ET Drags out back, HAL shocks (front/rear) w/ front drag springs, BMR LCAs, BMR adj. PHR, BMR relocation brackets, Wolfe SFCs, and a Suspension Techniques rear sway bar
For my first time out w/ bolt ons, I was more than pleased. <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0"> I was shifting the car at 6200, but will experiment more with that later on. I'll also dyno the car this week, time permitting.
I told Geoff @ Thunder I would put a Thunder cam in if I went 11s today, but I think I'm going to hold off for awhile. <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0"> This bolt on stuff is SOOO much fun. <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0"> <img src="graemlins/fluffy.gif" border="0" alt="[Fluffy]" />
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[ December 15, 2001: Message edited by: Jason99T/A ]</p>
A group of about 20 cars made the trip to Eunice today. The track is normally prepped very well, but it wasn't hooking well for most. That coupled w/ the upper 60 degree and humid weather, I wasn't expecting very much out of the car. Boy, was I wrong.. <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">
1st pass off the street:
60' ... 1.693
1/8 ... 7.536
1/4 ... 11.801
mph ... 115.660
After this, the track kept getting worse and worse. I was able to run 11.84 (1.71 60') and 11.87 (1.74 60'). I was leaving at 5k rpms w/ 14psi in the ET Drags. Considering the car wasn't leaving as good as could, I was VERY happy! <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0">
Temp was 69*, 64% humidity, and a baro. of 30.08. Raceweight was around 3450.
Here is a list of my mods: Whisper lid, stock MAF, stock fuel/timing maps, Grotyohann headers w/ 3" custom off-road, Hooker catback, LS6 intake, ASP pulley, ported TB, Fast-Toys ram air kit, Moser 12-bolt w/ 4:30s, Mcleod prototype iron disk setup, Thunder Racing custom tuning, Prostars (front/rear) w/ 26x10x15 ET Drags out back, HAL shocks (front/rear) w/ front drag springs, BMR LCAs, BMR adj. PHR, BMR relocation brackets, Wolfe SFCs, and a Suspension Techniques rear sway bar
For my first time out w/ bolt ons, I was more than pleased. <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0"> I was shifting the car at 6200, but will experiment more with that later on. I'll also dyno the car this week, time permitting.
I told Geoff @ Thunder I would put a Thunder cam in if I went 11s today, but I think I'm going to hold off for awhile. <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0"> This bolt on stuff is SOOO much fun. <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0"> <img src="graemlins/fluffy.gif" border="0" alt="[Fluffy]" />
Jason
[ December 15, 2001: Message edited by: Jason99T/A ]</p>
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Re: New 6-speed stock internal bolt on time!!
I'll have a video up soon, as long as Dan (FigsZ28) sends the tape. <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0">
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Jason,
congrats man!! your car is freakin moving! and you only have bolt ons! <img src="gr_eek2.gif" border="0"> I can't wait to see what you turn with that Thunder 224 cam.
job well done---says fluffy <img src="graemlins/fluffy.gif" border="0" alt="[Fluffy]" />
Did your car leave this hard off the line?
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congrats man!! your car is freakin moving! and you only have bolt ons! <img src="gr_eek2.gif" border="0"> I can't wait to see what you turn with that Thunder 224 cam.
job well done---says fluffy <img src="graemlins/fluffy.gif" border="0" alt="[Fluffy]" />
Did your car leave this hard off the line?
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This proves that upgrading rearends on M6's changes everything...you can only go so far with the stock rear, I can only imagine how it will be when I got a 12bolt out back with ET streets coming out of the hole at 5500....60 ft glory... <img src="graemlins/formula.gif" border="0" alt="[Pontiac]" />
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Re: New 6-speed stock internal bolt on time!!
well convinced to put the heads and cam on. Good run. The 4.30 gears are the trick guys. I could not get out of the 11.90 range yesterday with the 3.73. <img src="gr_eek2.gif" border="0">
Good job Jason. Very good run.
Also, who did the tuning on the old set up.. Guess what set up I got.. Very, very simialr to your old heads and cam (minus solid). <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0"> <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">
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Good job Jason. Very good run.
Also, who did the tuning on the old set up.. Guess what set up I got.. Very, very simialr to your old heads and cam (minus solid). <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0"> <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">
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Congrats Jason! I put a longer reply on your ls1.com post, so I won't go on again here. LOL.
Moose...come on man! Get some more gear, don't lift your foot off that throttle, and you're there dude! Might want to get that LS6 intake, too, as I guess ya'll consider those a 'bolt-on'.
Congrats again Jason!
Moose...come on man! Get some more gear, don't lift your foot off that throttle, and you're there dude! Might want to get that LS6 intake, too, as I guess ya'll consider those a 'bolt-on'.
Congrats again Jason!
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Congrats! It ought to be illegal for a bolt-on car to run like that!!! <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0"> <img src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" />
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Boohoo I am #2 <img src="gr_sad.gif" border="0">
haha, it was waaaaay overdue though! Kinda funny I sometimes wish I still had bolt ons with all the new cool stuff I have installed since I did the cam and heads (HALs, 12 bolt, ET drags)
Oh well, maybe I'll get bored one day and throw a stock motor back inthe car for kicks <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">
There's a whole bunch more left in your car with the weather and 60 foot times!
Congrats! <img src="graemlins/fluffy.gif" border="0" alt="[Fluffy]" />
haha, it was waaaaay overdue though! Kinda funny I sometimes wish I still had bolt ons with all the new cool stuff I have installed since I did the cam and heads (HALs, 12 bolt, ET drags)
Oh well, maybe I'll get bored one day and throw a stock motor back inthe car for kicks <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">
There's a whole bunch more left in your car with the weather and 60 foot times!
Congrats! <img src="graemlins/fluffy.gif" border="0" alt="[Fluffy]" />
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That's a hell of an accomplishment, Jason, especially considering the not-so-great weather and the track prep.
You make my new H/C best look embarrasing...but you know I'll get faster once I get past these shifting troubles I'm having ... and more practice.
You make my new H/C best look embarrasing...but you know I'll get faster once I get past these shifting troubles I'm having ... and more practice.
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What'd I say? I knew you'd set a new bar your first time out, and you did! That's AWESOME for the weather and traction (or lack thereof). You're going to REALLY fly when you have a fully-prepped track and some cool weather. <img src="graemlins/camaro.gif" border="0" alt="[Chevrolet]" />
Congrats on the new best with the new setup!
Congrats on the new best with the new setup!
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awesome jason, you are as fast as my car with heads / cam and almost as fast and many others with more mods!!!
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Awsome times Jason <img src="graemlins/gr_hail.gif" border="0" alt="[hail]" /> Sorry we only got the 1st 11.8 run (the good one) on video. Im gonna go over and make a copy of it and send it to you. I have to way of hosting it. Once again FREAKING AWSOME <img src="graemlins/burnout.gif" border="0" alt="[Burnout]" />
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Thanks for all the compliments guys! I appreciate it. <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0">
Moose: Thunder Racing did the tuning on my old setup. Nice choice on your cylinder heads. <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0"> Email me the details of your setup and I'll see if I can help.
Scotty G: Once you get your tranny/clutch issues solved, look for those times to DROP big time. <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0"> How did you get the 15x10s to fit at the track?
Trevor D: LOL, I know.. you told me. <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0"> You told me bolt ons were a BLAST and now I know what you mean. <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">
Bob Cosby: Thanks man! What do you think of a 4.56 gear setup/28" ET Drags for a bolt on car? I totally agree the car needs more gearing out of the hole. I know I'm going to get to a sticky track and leave off the limiter and still bog..LOL That option would be alot cheaper than paying for a custom tranny. <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0">
12-bolt + steep gearing + ET Drags should be on everyone's Christmas list. <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0"> The 12bolt setup has been the most fun mod I have done to date. Make sure you get a real good clutch too. LOL
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Moose: Thunder Racing did the tuning on my old setup. Nice choice on your cylinder heads. <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0"> Email me the details of your setup and I'll see if I can help.
Scotty G: Once you get your tranny/clutch issues solved, look for those times to DROP big time. <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0"> How did you get the 15x10s to fit at the track?
Trevor D: LOL, I know.. you told me. <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0"> You told me bolt ons were a BLAST and now I know what you mean. <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">
Bob Cosby: Thanks man! What do you think of a 4.56 gear setup/28" ET Drags for a bolt on car? I totally agree the car needs more gearing out of the hole. I know I'm going to get to a sticky track and leave off the limiter and still bog..LOL That option would be alot cheaper than paying for a custom tranny. <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0">
12-bolt + steep gearing + ET Drags should be on everyone's Christmas list. <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0"> The 12bolt setup has been the most fun mod I have done to date. Make sure you get a real good clutch too. LOL
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Jason, that is bad *** dude. Did you have the hooker catback on the car for this run, or did you drop the rear section? I thought about doing this to save some weight at the track. What was your race weight on those runs?
Those ET's are sweet, but I am comin for ya when the 2002 rolls in <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0"> <img src="gr_tounge.gif" border="0">
Those ET's are sweet, but I am comin for ya when the 2002 rolls in <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0"> <img src="gr_tounge.gif" border="0">
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[quote]Originally posted by Damian:
<strong>Jason, that is bad *** dude. Did you have the hooker catback on the car for this run, or did you drop the rear section? I thought about doing this to save some weight at the track. What was your race weight on those runs?
Those ET's are sweet, but I am comin for ya when the 2002 rolls in <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0"> <img src="gr_tounge.gif" border="0"> </strong><hr></blockquote>
Thanks! I did drop the rear section at the track since I don't have a cutout on the car. This is one of the great parts of the Hooker system. 3 bolts and remove exhaust from one hanger and the muffler and tips drop. This saves 26lbs. Raceweight was around 3450.
<strong>Jason, that is bad *** dude. Did you have the hooker catback on the car for this run, or did you drop the rear section? I thought about doing this to save some weight at the track. What was your race weight on those runs?
Those ET's are sweet, but I am comin for ya when the 2002 rolls in <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0"> <img src="gr_tounge.gif" border="0"> </strong><hr></blockquote>
Thanks! I did drop the rear section at the track since I don't have a cutout on the car. This is one of the great parts of the Hooker system. 3 bolts and remove exhaust from one hanger and the muffler and tips drop. This saves 26lbs. Raceweight was around 3450.