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Old 01-12-2002, 10:57 AM
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Default Updated!!! Thunder Racing Southern Style EFI F-Body/Y-Body Shootout rules...

These rules apply to all F-bodys and Corvette's with factory type EFI( no aftermarket DFI's), full interiors and two front seats.

Note Exception.... DFI's will be allowed in Pro Stock and Pro Outlaw.

Suspension on all cars must have stock type springs and shocks in stock configuration.
Top of tires must not stick out further the outermost point of rear fender.

Minimum weights are with driver.

Ballast can be added to make weight minimums per safety rules.

Street Stock classes must have full exhaust exiting behind rear wheel. No open cutouts.

All other classes must have mufflers, header mufflers OK

Street Stock...Manual trans only, DOT Radials only drag radials ok, No power adders, Max displacement 358ci, Minimum weight 3500lbs, Open to any F-body with factory type EFI no aftermarket DFI's, Factory heads only no porting, no sheetmetal intakes, cam change allowed but no solid rollers, Any factory trans allowed in any year. Other than that if you can bolt it on you can have it.

Street Stock Automatic...same as Street Stock but auto trans only for year of car. No trans brakes.

Corvette Street Stock... manual or automatic trans for year of car, DOT radial tires only drag radials ok, no poweradders, max displacement 358 cid., minimum weight 3350lbs with driver, open to any Y-body with factory type EFI no DFI's, factory heads only no porting, no sheetmetal intakes, cam change allowed but no solid rollers. Must have full exhaust no cutouts. Bolt on's allowed. no trans brakes.

Modified Stock...Manual trans only, 400 ci max. (no big blocks), 3500lbs min. Any tire 10.5 sidewall designation on slicks.... 12.5 sidewall max. designation on DOT (ET Street, Quicktime pros etc.)
No power adders
factory and aftermarket ported heads ok
Any cam
Any factory type trans

Modified Stock Automatic... Same as Modified Stock but with any auto trans only. No trans brakes. If trans brake is installed the solinoid must be disconnected.

Corvette Modified .... 400 cid max, 3350lbs minimum, auto and manual trans, no big blocks, 10.5 inch sidewall designation on slicks no W's 12.5 on DOT (ET Streets etc), factory and aftermarket heads allowed, porting allowed, Heads must retain stock valve configuration, any cam,
no poweradders, any factory type trans, no trans brakes.

Corvettes over 400cid... see Pro Stock or Pro Outlaw

Modified Stock Power Adder... Same as Modified Stock Stick/Auto including single power adder. Manual and auto factory type trans only, no aftermarket trans.

Pro Stock... F-Bodys and Corvettes allowed, 440 ci max (no big blocks), 3200lbs min., 10.5 sidewall designation on slicks no W's 12.5 on DOT's,
no power adders
any trans, trans brakes allowed
Factory intake configuration only, no carburated intakes with trottle bodys. Sheetmetal intakes OK as long as they are in the stock configuration.
LS1 and LT1 Stock Eliminator cars with DFI will be allowed to run in Pro Stock if the meet minimum weight requirements.

Pro Outlaw ...F-Bodys and Corvettes allowed, multiple Power Adders allowed, 440 ci max., 3200lbs minimum, no big blocks, factory valve configuration (no sb2's etc), max 10.5 sidewall desination on slicks no W's 12.5 on DOT's.
Aftermarket DFI's will be allowed in this class.

Bracket Race... All GM EFI or DFI Vehicles allowed
Trucks OK

Of course all safety rules apply for ET and speed you run.

These rules are not finished..... It is a work in progress.... Some clarification and editing is going to be done.

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Any way to police there being no head porting allowed in street stock? What about CIs?

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Default Re: Updated!!! Thunder Racing Southern Style EFI F-Body/Y-Body Shootout rules...

[quote]Originally posted by Colonel:
<strong>Any way to police there being no head porting allowed in street stock? What about CIs.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Just pull a header or maybe a intake... I know port work whe I see it.

Cubic inches can be policed with a P&G gage. Most of the time that will catch any over 5 cubic inches.

To be honest I forgot the exhaust. The Street Stock classes must have full exhaust exiting behind the rear wheels.

All other classes must be muffled. Header mufflers OK.
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Default Re: Updated!!! Thunder Racing Southern Style EFI F-Body/Y-Body Shootout rules...

Modified Street...400 ci max. (no big blocks), 3400lbs min. Any tire 10.5 sidewall designation on slicks.... 11.5 sidewall max. designation on DOT (ET Street, Quicktime pros etc.)
No power adders
factory and aftermarket ported heads ok
Any cam
Any factory type trans

Modified Street Automatic... Same as above but with any auto trans. No trans brakes. If trans brake is installed the solinoid must be disconnected.

Perfect class for me. I won't need to strip my car to the bone to compete in one class or change my tranny (th350) to compete in another <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0"> I won't need to go on a diet either <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0"> Thanks Joe, I'm going to eat a sandwich now <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0"> Maybe 2.
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Default Re: Updated!!! Thunder Racing Southern Style EFI F-Body/Y-Body Shootout rules...

I just added Modified Street Power Adder. That give's the heavier PA cars a class.

I'm undecided about the Outlaw class... Don't know how many cars around the country fit.
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Default Re: Updated!!! Thunder Racing Southern Style EFI F-Body/Y-Body Shootout rules...

Hey what about my 87 IROC in street stock?
I cant compete with an LS1 with stock heads and only a cam. Especially at 3500 pounds.

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Default Re: Updated!!! Thunder Racing Southern Style EFI F-Body/Y-Body Shootout rules...

But Guido my man.... What about your 86 turbocharged Camaro??? Could it not compete in the Modified Street PA class???? Try again. <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">
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Default Re: Updated!!! Thunder Racing Southern Style EFI F-Body/Y-Body Shootout rules...

I will definitely show up with 3 if not more cars for that type of racing. What would be the payouts??? This is the rules we like in Texas minimal rules!!!
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Default Re: Updated!!! Thunder Racing Southern Style EFI F-Body/Y-Body Shootout rules...

Madman these are some rules that I'm just throwing around to see what shakes out. It's a work in progress. It's not a race yet but it could be if there's enough interest.
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Default Re: Updated!!! Thunder Racing Southern Style EFI F-Body/Y-Body Shootout rules...

After being inspired by Bob Cosby I seperated the auto/stick cars in the first two classes. Th Pro and outlaw classes have transbrakes and aftermarket trans so that should even them up.

Thanks Bob. <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0">
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Default Re: Updated!!! Thunder Racing Southern Style EFI F-Body/Y-Body Shootout rules...

Sounds like fun to me. <img src="graemlins/burnout.gif" border="0" alt="[Burnout]" /> I like the idea of separating the sticks and autos for the slower classes.

You think exhaust of some sort should be required on the Street Stock classes at least?

...And of course there would be a bracket race too I assume?
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Hell, if there's racing I'll be there. Just don't forget about us lowly bracket guys. <img src="gr_tounge.gif" border="0"> <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">
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Default Re: Updated!!! Thunder Racing Southern Style EFI F-Body/Y-Body Shootout rules...

Trevor how could I have forgot??? Of course there would be a bracket race. It might be formated as a open comp type race running off a 5 tenths pro tree simular to the NSCA. <img src="graemlins/burnout.gif" border="0" alt="[Burnout]" />
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Let me know. We would be interested in racing and possibly a sponsorship.
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Madman if this ever happens you'll be one of the first to know. <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0">
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Default Re: Updated!!! Thunder Racing Southern Style EFI F-Body/Y-Body Shootout rules...

So this means no Hal's... i got to buy stock shocks and springs?
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[quote]Originally posted by Bad Habit SS:
<strong>So this means no Hal's... i got to buy stock shocks and springs?</strong><hr></blockquote>


Stock "type". Hals are fine.
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Hals are fine as long as they are in the stock location.
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Default Re: Updated!!! Thunder Racing Southern Style EFI F-Body/Y-Body Shootout rules...

I really like the idea. But us power adder cars don't have much choices <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0">

how bout a Heavy (3600 race weight) power adder street car challenge? Thats just an idea but i know you can't have a class for everyone. Heck I'd be just happy to come run and see all you guys there. I've been waiting on something i could just show off the car and run it.
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Default Re: Updated!!! Thunder Racing Southern Style EFI F-Body/Y-Body Shootout rules...

[quote]Originally posted by Bad Habit SS:
<strong>I really like the idea. But us power adder cars don't have much choices <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0">

how bout a Heavy (3600 race weight) power adder street car challenge? Thats just an idea but i know you can't have a class for everyone. Heck I'd be just happy to come run and see all you guys there. I've been waiting on something i could just show off the car and run it.</strong><hr></blockquote>

When I added that class I thought it might be a little light for the supercharged and turbocharged cars due to the added weght of the hardware. Plus they are a lot of power adder cars out there that are full weight due to the fact they never had to lighten their cars up, they just added hp. Let be do a little reshearch and I'll get back to you.

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