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Old May 16, 2007 | 08:28 AM
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How many per side is adequate and can it be done while the tire is on the rim? I'm guessing not. Thanks for any info. -Mark
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Old May 16, 2007 | 08:46 AM
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I bought the jig kit from Jegs, and am very happy i spent the 20 for it. After that, i put 8 per side, which is plenty IMO. Any more and you are forcing too much wrinkle on the sidewall. As for the tire, you are supposed to drill the rim w/o the tire on there, then mount the tire, and put the screws in.

Pretty simple process. What i did was had my slicks dismounted, did my holes, then put the tires back on in the garage myself(a little damn and some effort, and they will slide over the lip of the rim with the soft sidewall). I installed my screws, and THEN took them and balanced them(or else the screws might throw off the balance a little).


Good luck with it man!
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Old May 16, 2007 | 09:01 AM
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Cool. Thanks Tim. I'll visit Jegs site today and pick up a set. Didn't think about the screws might throw the balance off. Good info. I found out after 2 passes the drivers side spin 2 1/2 inches. -Mark
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The tire will wrinkle where ever the screws are. I usually run 10-12 per side and stagger the screws from one side to the other.
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Old May 16, 2007 | 11:06 AM
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i only run 6 per side
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Old May 16, 2007 | 11:52 AM
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The tire will wrinkle where ever the screws are. I usually run 10-12 per side and stagger the screws from one side to the other.

that's alot of screws! Any particular reason you run that many, is it just to get the tire to evenly wrinkle, issues with breaking less screws?

I'm hoping not to have the movment issues with a radial tire... but on the other hand I bought the screws to put 16 per wheel (8 per side) if they move like the last set of bias ply tires I ran.... I see any more then a 1/4 inch of movement per run and they're getting screwed for sure.
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Old May 16, 2007 | 12:03 PM
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Everywhere there is a screw there will be a wrinkle. By running more screws it makes smaller wrinkles and is less prone to shake the tires.
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Old May 16, 2007 | 12:20 PM
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Madman- I've never heard of staggering the screws. Wouldn't that cause the tire to wrinkle to one side? My thinking behind that is if the wrinkles on either side are in the same places respectively then to car "should" go straight. But if the wrinkles are in different places, I would think the car might go left or right??? -Mark

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Old May 16, 2007 | 12:56 PM
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The summit rim screw template lays out 16 per side! Ive never seen any with less.

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Care to elaborate on the staggering you speak of?
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Old May 16, 2007 | 02:19 PM
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I'm hoping not to have the movment issues with a radial tire..[/QUOTE]

With the radial tire you should be ok with 8 per side. Also with the radial tire you run more air pressure which helps the rim/screws hold the tire better. I never had any movement on mine with the radial tire and 8 per side.
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Old May 16, 2007 | 02:29 PM
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more wrinkles = less shake.... then I'm gonna ahve to look into that. I really didn't want to drill the **** out of my bogarts like that... but now it's seeming like a good idea.


What about the air leakage issues... what is everyone doing to get the tires to hold air after the drilling/screws.. I know tubes, but I don't want to go that route, not with a radial tire.
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Old May 16, 2007 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by JL ws-6


What about the air leakage issues... what is everyone doing to get the tires to hold air after the drilling/screws.. I know tubes, but I don't want to go that route, not with a radial tire.
If done properly you shouldn't have any issues with leakage, I never did anyway.
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Old May 16, 2007 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Fire67
The summit rim screw template lays out 16 per side! Ive never seen any with less.

Madman-
Care to elaborate on the staggering you speak of?
Skip every other template spot=8....
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Old May 16, 2007 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Hawkn01
If done properly you shouldn't have any issues with leakage, I never did anyway.

I agree, mine actually hold air BETTER with the screws. Only reason i could think of for this is it holds the tire to the rim better???
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Old May 16, 2007 | 03:12 PM
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From what I thought the screws do not completely go all the way through the bead. I've always thought they leak quicker than non screwed rims. -Mark
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Old May 16, 2007 | 09:12 PM
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My opinion 8-12 per side, per HP, more = more. I have done with tire mounted & not mounted. You should be able to feel without drilling thru tire. Screws do not go thru bead, or they would pop the tube. We always balance after screwing, as said, obvious reason. Never heard the stagger thing either, but if the man says, then it's probably correct. I always kept exactly the same, thinking it would help balance.

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Old May 16, 2007 | 09:45 PM
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Hey I've been meaning to post about this! I have a Summit screw set and have been waiting to do this but wasn't sure how, but now I know. Thanks guys
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Old May 16, 2007 | 09:50 PM
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some guys say don't screw the drag radials, and I have a good buddy running 7.70s at 180 mph in a procharged '88 Camaro on M/T drag radials without rim screws and they don't move.

My slicks need a few passes to rotate a little but then don't seem to move again. I'm in the same boat of not wanting to drill holes.

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Old May 18, 2007 | 02:40 AM
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I did 8 per side with the tire's still mounted.
Marked it with a template, center punched my marks, and drilled it slowly so it didn't catch and go through the tire when it broke through the rim.

I also kept them in-line inside/outside. The "staggered" way is interesting and I'm curious to the benefits.

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Old May 18, 2007 | 07:14 AM
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I use a drop of clear silicone in the screw holes before I screw them down, someone told me once that keeps the air in so I've been doing it for years-whether it really works-who knows?
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