Fireball

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don't you need 2 dash gussets per side?

Phil99vette

iTrader: (11)

Not by the rules I read. 1 1/2" x .065 requires 1 per side. This is also how Wolfe sells their 25.2 cage kits.

Fireball

iTrader: (21)

what size is your dash bar?

Phil99vette

iTrader: (11)

1 1/2" x .065

JL ws-6

iTrader: (50)

I have a question, for you guys that are adding onto cages that are already painted: What are you doing with the paint when you repaint? Reason I ask... is I can see there being lines all over the place from the different thickness paints.... are you stripping the old paint off? hitting it with a scotchbrite disk to blend them in? Nothing at all?

Curious, becuase I see alot of people *** onto cars all the time, and this is something I've wondered about. I did it with my own car, but I used an epoxy-urethane paint that's really tough stuff... and it's thick, applied with a foam brush and it levels itself as it dries. But even with that, I found myself sanding and repainting some spots to get it to look right.

Curious as to what you guys are doing....

Fireball

iTrader: (21)

sandpaper and elbow grease to level out. I use that vht chassis spray paint.

JL ws-6

iTrader: (50)

Got ya. You think that's bad.. the epoxy urethane stuff I used clogs the paper quick.. but it does take a BEATING and doesn't chip/scratch easily. Takes a while to dry too, like a day and a half, sometimes 2 if it's cold but it does look decent, almost like powdercoat.

Next round of mods, where I have to repaint, I'm gonna try jut scotch-brite, and see how that scuffs the older paint up... I think it might work for the initial prep.

ty_ty13

iTrader: (42)

racecars arent saposed to be show cars... when you get a close look at some of the fastest cars in the business... most of them are nice but not super nice and clean.... the race car body/chassis is just a tool to smoke some ones ***

Phil99vette

iTrader: (11)

My car may not have the best finishes or be the cleanest but it gets the job done.

Shawn @ VA Speed

iTrader: (3)

exactly-most of the fastest cars look the worst.

i'll take a fast rough car over a slow nice car anyday

JL ws-6

iTrader: (50)

And on that note noone cares what a fast car looks like... thanks for reminding me of that

Wnts2Go10O

iTrader: (12)

besides... paint is just extra weight

Fireball

iTrader: (21)

phil...double check the spec...looks like for 1 1/2" dash bar the gussets need to be above the dash bar (per the text)

MADMAN

iTrader: (4)

True except Phils dash bar doesnt interrupt the windshield bars.

Fireball

iTrader: (21)

I know...but it doesn't specify any different. (these specs are written HORRIBLY)

says minimum size for uninterrupted is 1 5/8 x .083 (no gussets needed)
but can use 1 1/4 if you use 4 gussets

it said 1 1/2 is the absolute min for interrupted windshield bars that needs 2 gussets above (one on each side)

Since the spec associated the 1.5" bar with gussets above it, I personally would put the gussets above...that way there's no doubt come certification...

Shawn @ VA Speed

iTrader: (3)

here's the way i read it.If the dash bar does not interrupt the roof bars and is smaller than 1 5/8(1 1/4 min)that it is required to have 4-1'' gussets-2 upper and 2 lower.

The 2 gusset deal is ONLY mentioned when the roof bars are interrupted.

JL ws-6

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I'd just put the 4 on and not take a chance.. tech inspector sees all 4 he's not even gonna look at that portion of things, with 2 there, the guy will probably start looking.

ty_ty13

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the guys with the fastest cars dont have time to build show cars as they usually expect to hit the wall during a season or atleast rotate them out ever 1 or 2 seasons.... aka lynch mob

Fireball

iTrader: (21)

thats the problem with these specs. an interrupted windshield bar is less structurally sound than an uninterrupted one...why would 2 gussets be ok with that but need 4 when its in one piece?

Shawn @ VA Speed

iTrader: (3)

the problem is your trying to make sense of them instead of just reeading what they say.

you can't make sense out of what an engineer comes up with