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Old 05-30-2008, 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Fireball
did you drive it around w/o the front bumper just to show off your craftsmanship?
No, I was soo excited about driving it I said F-it. Hopefully I'll have some dyno numbers tonight on low boost.
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Everyone is on LOW Boost LOL
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Kyle - Trust me it ain't going to be on low boost for long. As soon as I can get the last fitting for my AMS its going to be full tilt.
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Good luck at the dyno Phil, looks like it is ready to go 200 mph.
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well i have been watching this project for the whole time and never once made a post.. but i have read all of the post.. and over all i rate it a 11 out of 10 on the thread.

its bad *** man keep up the good work and dont let the vette go to waste now that you have this monster..

BTW i love the painted nails holding up the baby. i hope they are not yours lol..

ill fill it up if i can go for a ride if im ever anywhere close.. cause the fastest i have been was in the in the wild street challege champ of 06's car. and its only been 8'teens..
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Well didn't get much done on the dyno. We made 8-9 pulls none on boost. A/F was so far out of wack it wasn't funny. By the 9th pull the car was running 13:0+-2 all motor. We pulled the charge pipe to tune it for the motor alone. Couple things we found out....
1) 4.5 degrees of timing all motor = almost 50hp
2) The water tank heats up quick needs to be changed every 2 pulls

Something in the tranny let go on the 9th pull. Talked to one of my tranny guys and he said that there is a small piece that could have broken which is common. Somethng to do with the shifter and getting the tranny into the correct gear. He said its a $2 part. I'm going to pull the tranny tomorrow get it over to Wayne and get it torn down, he said he can have it back same day.
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Sorry about the gremlins Phil, you'll get is sorted out
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did you weigh it yet?
hate hearing about those little things, but been there lol,
hope to see big numbers soon
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Originally Posted by Phil99vette
Well didn't get much done on the dyno. We made 8-9 pulls none on boost. A/F was so far out of wack it wasn't funny. By the 9th pull the car was running 13:0+-2 all motor. We pulled the charge pipe to tune it for the motor alone. Couple things we found out....
1) 4.5 degrees of timing all motor = almost 50hp
2) The water tank heats up quick needs to be changed every 2 pulls

Something in the tranny let go on the 9th pull. Talked to one of my tranny guys and he said that there is a small piece that could have broken which is common. Somethng to do with the shifter and getting the tranny into the correct gear. He said its a $2 part. I'm going to pull the tranny tomorrow get it over to Wayne and get it torn down, he said he can have it back same day.
how is your water heating up if you took the charge pipe off? I've always heard that pushing it without a charge pipe is extremely bad for the turbo as it can freewheel and overrev....
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Originally Posted by Fireball
how is your water heating up if you took the charge pipe off? I've always heard that pushing it without a charge pipe is extremely bad for the turbo as it can freewheel and overrev....
We put the transmission cooler in the water tank. The car is almost done on the motor, the VE numbers are very close. I'm going to try adding timing to see how much we can get out of it. Switching from 24 to 28, the car made 45 more RWHP.
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Originally Posted by car_fixer
did you weigh it yet?
hate hearing about those little things, but been there lol,
hope to see big numbers soon
I was initally plannign on stopping by and putting it on the scale but since the trans let go we packed it up and headed home.
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ulled the tranny today and decided its time to get a lift. Tranny fluid was clean, pan was clean still not sure what broke.
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Originally Posted by Phil99vette
decided its time to get a lift.
You can do that with that " Big Money Grip" you have Looks like you'll have to do something with your garage door first. What kind of numbers did you get anyways? Or is it
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Originally Posted by Phil99vette
decided its time to get a lift.
ive wondered how youve done it all along. youve got more patience for getting on the ground than i do. cant wait to see the numbers.
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Originally Posted by smokeum99ta
You can do that with that " Big Money Grip" you have Looks like you'll have to do something with your garage door first. What kind of numbers did you get anyways? Or is it
We had too many issues to get any real good numbers but looking at the number trend from run 1 to run 8 we're moving in the right direction. The motor numbers were less than spectacular BUT considering we picked up ~50rwhp by adding 4 degrees of timing and everyone says we're going to end up with timing in the high 30s...we're going to be just fine. I can say we're trying to make 500-520rwhp on the motor through a glide with an unlocked converter.

The dyno did tell us....
- We were down 30+rwhp on the final pull due to IAT temps in the mid 130s vs 40s
- 24 to 28 degrees was worth big HP and we firmly believe its going to need 35-38 when its all said and done with.

Standing back and looking at the data, I'm happy where we're at.
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Originally Posted by Phil99vette
We put the transmission cooler in the water tank.
In the water tank for the turbo IC?

When I get around to finding me a nice notch fox (Turbo BBC going in it) I am going to run a seperate water tank for the tranny and another for the turbo. This may be what you have.

Glad to see your car is making some pulls, cheap parts to fix things are nice.... I need to get a fence up in the back yard for the dogs before I have some play money...
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Originally Posted by Fireball
how is your water heating up if you took the charge pipe off? I've always heard that pushing it without a charge pipe is extremely bad for the turbo as it can freewheel and overrev....
I have heard the same...Phil are you not worried about it because you dont plan on spending much more time tuning n/a or you believe it is ok? Thanks.
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We got the big turbo installed this morning, had to grind the frame rail and the support to get it to fit since it was tucked up alittle more. Started on the downpipe and got a couple tubes cut and almost ready to be tacked into place.

My dad dropped off the tranny today, hopefully I'll have it back wednesday to install thursday.

Tomorrow I hope to have the downpipe finished so when the tranny gets back we can hit the track.
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Originally Posted by black98ws6ta
I have heard the same...Phil are you not worried about it because you dont plan on spending much more time tuning n/a or you believe it is ok? Thanks.
Its going to be all good.
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some times what the dyno likes for timing and what the track likes for timming is a little different... i'd pull a couple degrees on the track just to be safe that when its loaded hard it doesnt detonate... there... thats my $.02.... lol

good luck and the car looks stellar!


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