Lower RWHP after FAST 90/90 install??
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Lower RWHP after FAST 90/90 install??
Last Dyno:
5.3l pp stage 2 heads
231/237 TSP cam
Volant intake
2500 Stall
QTP headers and ORY
Corsa Cat back
STOCK INTAKE/TB/maf
379 rwhp
Present Dyno
Last Dyno:
5.3l pp stage 2 heads
231/237 TSP cam
Volant intake
4000Stall
QTP headers and ORY
Cheap Magnaflow (needed it quiter)
Exhaust cutouts (not opened)
Fast 90/90 setup
Stock MAF/with billett ends
373rwhp
Durning the 90/90 install I had to pull the heads to replace lifters. Isky lifters now in place. Tuner stated that he pulled some advance versus last tune, and that his new dyno (dont know what kind) has shown numbers just slightly lower than previous dyno. Shouldn't I be near 400?
5.3l pp stage 2 heads
231/237 TSP cam
Volant intake
2500 Stall
QTP headers and ORY
Corsa Cat back
STOCK INTAKE/TB/maf
379 rwhp
Present Dyno
Last Dyno:
5.3l pp stage 2 heads
231/237 TSP cam
Volant intake
4000Stall
QTP headers and ORY
Cheap Magnaflow (needed it quiter)
Exhaust cutouts (not opened)
Fast 90/90 setup
Stock MAF/with billett ends
373rwhp
Durning the 90/90 install I had to pull the heads to replace lifters. Isky lifters now in place. Tuner stated that he pulled some advance versus last tune, and that his new dyno (dont know what kind) has shown numbers just slightly lower than previous dyno. Shouldn't I be near 400?
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If I'm not mistaken I believe going with a 4K stall would drop your numbers. i'm not sure how much it would but I've heard that it does. But I could just be pulling that out of my ***.
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agreed the 4k stall is eating up some power for sure but I wouldn't be to concerned with the dyno numbers. I say take it to the track and see what she does. I bet you pick up alot with that converter and FAST.
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OP-what rear are you running in the car?? I see its says 4.10 moser is it just a geared 10 bolt? Also was the converter locked or unlocked during the run? If it was unlocked that is why your seeing a drop in RWHP.
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Not an exact comparison. You changed lifters, exhaust and converter with the FAST.
The lower number could be due largely due to the 4000k stall.
My 3500 stall dynoed 420rwhp unlocked, but my 4000k stall dynoed 392rwhp unlocked.
But the car traps higher and runs quicker at the track.
The lower number could be due largely due to the 4000k stall.
My 3500 stall dynoed 420rwhp unlocked, but my 4000k stall dynoed 392rwhp unlocked.
But the car traps higher and runs quicker at the track.
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You call that a mild cam? LOL
I do agree with everyone else's perception about the big stall having a drastic effect on the #'s. Still seems like it should make a little more w/ that cam + heads. Bottom line, take it to the track and see what it does.
I do agree with everyone else's perception about the big stall having a drastic effect on the #'s. Still seems like it should make a little more w/ that cam + heads. Bottom line, take it to the track and see what it does.
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I did not mention the rear end. This is running through a moser 12 bolt with 4.10's. But, both dyno tests were through that. The recent dyno was with the converter unlocked, but I beleive the first was as well.
My exhaust cutout were installed shortly after the headers on both sides. They were put in so it would be basically a straight shot out of the headers when they are open. I have to imagine that causes a fair amount of issues when they are closed.
I will have it at the track in one week. My best run last year, before the big stall and 90/90 setup was a 12.3. The track I run at is notorious for poor numbers.
Tuner thought that the ports on the 90/90 may not be right with the heads I am running due to milling on the heads. But, the 5.3l pp heads aren't milled that much are they? Also, wouldn't that have been an issue with my stock intake? He also stated that my MAF is holding me back as well. I have heard the stockers are good for quite a bit of power. How much is it holding me back?
My exhaust cutout were installed shortly after the headers on both sides. They were put in so it would be basically a straight shot out of the headers when they are open. I have to imagine that causes a fair amount of issues when they are closed.
I will have it at the track in one week. My best run last year, before the big stall and 90/90 setup was a 12.3. The track I run at is notorious for poor numbers.
Tuner thought that the ports on the 90/90 may not be right with the heads I am running due to milling on the heads. But, the 5.3l pp heads aren't milled that much are they? Also, wouldn't that have been an issue with my stock intake? He also stated that my MAF is holding me back as well. I have heard the stockers are good for quite a bit of power. How much is it holding me back?
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I would say take it to the track...my A4 had identical numbers from stock to 90/90, and stock stall to Yank SS3600. At the track I went 2mph faster and .28 - .29 quicker.
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I'm going to revive the dead. Brought it to the track. Interesting night... 85 degrees, on a known shitting track. I grabbed the wrong lugs to run my slicks. I couldn't get below 2.15 60ft.... just roasted those damn tires!!!
Anyway, throttle got stock on run three... could have been very bad. Used quick thinking at 120 and got it unstuckl
FOUND THE PROBLEM. Throttle was not opening all the way. My guess is 75% to 80% open. Rubber breather tub was preventing throttle from opening all the way. FML!!! I'll get the problem addressed and most likely get it dynoed to make sure air fuel/etc is still ok at high rpm.
Anyway, throttle got stock on run three... could have been very bad. Used quick thinking at 120 and got it unstuckl
FOUND THE PROBLEM. Throttle was not opening all the way. My guess is 75% to 80% open. Rubber breather tub was preventing throttle from opening all the way. FML!!! I'll get the problem addressed and most likely get it dynoed to make sure air fuel/etc is still ok at high rpm.