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Old 03-17-2004, 11:43 PM
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Default Whos made over 440rwhp w/ auto & stock bottom end?

I know know jfm did but it there anyone else on this board that has and what were the exact #'s and what major mods did it take ie cam/heads and which ones?

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Not you.


Or me.
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JFM mde 446 unlocked with G5X3 and AS 5.3s.
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Originally Posted by SPANKY LS1
JFM mde 446 unlocked with G5X3 and AS 5.3s.
Are we counting Flycut pistons as "stock bottom end"?
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Yes, because it doesn't add any power. When you flycut your pistons, you will still have a stock bottom end, IMO. Open to interpretation I guess, but most of the high dynoing cars have them, including Cartek, LG, TSP, your "coming soon", etc.

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Are you looking for locked or unlocked #`s
I guess im pretty close. If I would have opened my cutouts or put on a short belt ( I dont even own one ) or even locked the converter I guess I would be there also. Even unlocked if I added a Ported TB , EWP I would be there unlocked. But to be honest I race / dyno my car the same way I drive it on the street. Closed exhaust / all belts / on my nittos. This way When I drive 100 miles south to atco I just get in line to race without having to touch the car. Its the same when I drive the 100 miles to eastside to dyno. I hop right off the highway and onto the dyno no games or tricks. I am not into jerking myself off by pulling my belts or adding air pressure to tires for higher dyno #`s. Even my tune is is a street tune.
Anyway Ive seen them do it at cartek, I know LG has a few A4 cars there already and Raging motor sports has also. They just dont post em. Im sure there are plenty of others also. Mostly shops post m6 #`s becuase they are higher and some people dont relize how much power you loose through the a4 and wouldnt be impressed with the #`s.
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Originally Posted by gomer
Are we counting Flycut pistons as "stock bottom end"?
If they dont add after market parts its still stock.
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"Mostly shops post m6 #`s becuase they are higher and some people dont relize how much power you loose through the a4 and wouldnt be impressed with the #`s."

This was kinda the point of the thread...if your car makes 400 with an auto youd probably make 450+ with the same car just w/M6...


yah id consider a flycut car stock bottom end...youve got a pretty badass car OAX...what are the specs on the R1?

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Originally Posted by SilverSurfer
Not you.


Or me.
As long as I spank you like a redheaded stepchild on the 9th I dont care if i make 263 on the dyno lol
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Originally Posted by foff667
"Mostly shops post m6 #`s becuase they are higher and some people dont relize how much power you loose through the a4 and wouldnt be impressed with the #`s."

This was kinda the point of the thread...if your car makes 400 with an auto youd probably make 450+ with the same car just w/M6...


yah id consider a flycut car stock bottom end...youve got a pretty badass car OAX...what are the specs on the R1?

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Bill
Thanks Bill

The R1 specs are 232/236 .575/.578 112+4
I picked the cam up used off the board for 200 bux.
The way my car is setup or not setup for racing on the track I cant even apply most of the power so it goes wasted. To be honest I was looking at that T-Rex cam but sometimes I get hp crazy and like i said it would be a waste in my car as setup anyway.

Jeremy

If I wasto doit again I would do boltons, converter and a 150 shot
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Originally Posted by foff667
As long as I spank you like a redheaded stepchild on the 9th I dont care if i make 263 on the dyno lol
I am a red headed step child
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Originally Posted by foff667
This was kinda the point of the thread...if your car makes 400 with an auto youd probably make 450+ with the same car just w/M6...
I don't think it is that much of a difference. Maybe 20-25 rwhp for a car of this power level with a locked converter. The rear end makes a difference as well. 12bolt vs 10 bolt. 3.23's vs. 4.11's and so forth.
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Originally Posted by 2001 Pewter WS6
I don't think it is that much of a difference. Maybe 20-25 rwhp for a car of this power level with a locked converter. The rear end makes a difference as well. 12bolt vs 10 bolt. 3.23's vs. 4.11's and so forth.

HEy man get our car to the track already!!

I have been waiting to see the #`s you put down tuned!!
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Originally Posted by offaxis
HEy man get our car to the track already!!

I have been waiting to see the #`s you put down tuned!!
Next weekend...Pray that the weather holds. I know Jay is anxious as well.. I swapped my Headers and Y pipe since the tune. Jay thinks I was losing around 15rwhp with my FLP's and their Y pipe. I have 1 7/8" Kooks on their now with their 3" off road Y pipe. Soon as I get some good base line runs, I am putting in muy T-Rex cam with has been sitting in my garage for the past month.
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Good thread, I'd also like to know. I would think the T-Rex cam with some AS or GTP heads would be able to do it! I'm interested in seeing how that combo would do at the drag strip on a lightweight A4 car well set up for the drag strip; suspension, gears, slicks, etc. I would think mid 10's is more than possible with negative DA.
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Originally Posted by PewterZ28
Good thread, I'd also like to know. I would think the T-Rex cam with some AS or GTP heads would be able to do it! I'm interested in seeing how that combo would do at the drag strip on a lightweight A4 car well set up for the drag strip; suspension, gears, slicks, etc. I would think mid 10's is more than possible with negative DA.

10`s should be no problem in a + DA with that much power
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Originally Posted by PewterZ28
Good thread, I'd also like to know. I would think the T-Rex cam with some AS or GTP heads would be able to do it! I'm interested in seeing how that combo would do at the drag strip on a lightweight A4 car well set up for the drag strip; suspension, gears, slicks, etc. I would think mid 10's is more than possible with negative DA.
Id think so too...mid 10's should be semi easy in a lightweight A4 with a huge converter and the right gearing. These larger cams that are coming out are so new few have swapped out from their smaller cams to try these monsters the few that have seemingly are putting down really good #'s.
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I forgot there were a few JPR A4 cars that went into the 450+ range too. I think there are some dyno sheets that are posted here. Hey as soon as the LSX intake and the t-rex get around I think we will be seeing alot of 450hp a4 cars.
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440RW threw an auto is pretty tuff when your locked and threw a 12 bolt.
I dont know anyone thats done it..

I'm hoping for 425RW threw my VIG4000/12 bolt 4.10 /cutout (I will dyno with PS)
Thats more realistic if ask me.

Yea theres been a few with !ps,open headers/10 bolt 3.42's that have done it but thats not realistic.A race type setup with 4000+ stall/12 bolt 4.10/cutout/!ps and a killer set of heads and 230 -595 cam should be in the 425RW range.

The GX3 cam is HUUUUGE (239-245 620-620) come on thats not the average cam.
Thats why I used a 230-595 as an example,its big but not rediculous..

Now dont get me wrong,Add a LSX/90MM TB and u MIGHT hit 440RW threw a 4000 verter/12-bolt but that would be about max imo with a good set of heads and a 230-595 cam.

Look at Lyda Cains car.
VERY IMPRESSIVE setup,I think she made 407 unlocked and once TX speed adds the 90TB/LSX I think she's got a good chance at hitting 427 unlocked,then with a locked verter I would expect about 15RW more,I dont know if she has a 12-bolt or not but the bottom line her car should be close to 440RW and she's backed it up with ET's to match given the hp.

Dyno's are tools,U DONT race a dyno.
I've learned this the hard way..
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I ran 10.98 with a little less than 400rwhp in -400 DA. Our track it at 1200' so it takes pretty good air to get it into the -DA arena here. Summer time it is usually around +4000'. I am hoping for around 10.70's in +2000 DA air the way the car sits. It is pretty well setup for the track as far as suspension and so forth goes. It isn't stripped. Airbags, carpet, radio, aftermarket seats are in the car. I have no clue what it weighs. I hope to get it on a scale in the near future.



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