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Old Mar 28, 2006 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by offaxis
Screw the numbers that one hell of a nice looking car ya got there!

BTW congrats on the numbers!

I agree.
Old Mar 28, 2006 | 07:04 PM
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Great results my man! Chiming in here late and I was one of the first to know about the results, almost as it was happening

To all of the non believers, this car made the 414/385 numbers with a shitty mailorder tune Since then it has received a ported TB along with this "great" tune.

Hadn't been able to get ahold of you the last couple days man, hollar back at me soon, and I'm anxious to see the graph
Old Mar 28, 2006 | 07:35 PM
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Just a tip, you should go ahead and get that ground with 4 degrees of advance. The pin angle should be around 106. Unless you like being a little retarded!!!! LOL
ground in advance is for street cars..
Old Mar 28, 2006 | 07:40 PM
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Until I see the graph and A&A comes in to verify these numbers I will be calling BULLSHIT on this..
Old Mar 29, 2006 | 12:19 AM
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at Billiumss & 1QuickT-A

And before you ask, there were no dyno tricks: no shortbelt mod, air filter in place, through the exhaust etc....

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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 04:42 AM
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Probably not even your graph, but glad you are happy.

Get it to the track and let's see those numbers....
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WS6 Kid,

I just saw this post: https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamometer-results-comparisons/478242-dyno-results-tsp-torquer-v-2-prc-2-5-heads.html

You are so full of ****, it's not even funny.

Unless A&A comes in here and defends you and proves that SD tuning will automatically gain you 20 more HP, then all you are doing is spreading useless info for your combo. Are you trying to do some BS marketing technique for them?

Sorry dude, but with your mods, a MAF is not that restrictive. Same rules apply to make power for MAF and SD tuning: fuel, air, spark. It is so obvious that you don't know a damn thing about tuning.

Enjoy your lies........
Old Mar 29, 2006 | 07:06 AM
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I'm not one to get involved in debating the merits of posts like this, but the one thing I find amazing is the torque of this graph. Torque is very hard to gain past a certain point with stock heads, hp is not. Normally, to get above 400 lb ft of torque on a 346 takes higher static compression or very high dynamic compression. To get your dynamic compression high enough to crest 400 lb ft of torque would typically mean a very early intake valve closing point and thus, an early power peak...not the 6300+ power peak you're showing.

The graph looks like a heads/cam graph or a very happy dyno. I can believe the hp, just not the torque.
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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 07:56 AM
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There seem to be a few happy dynos around these days. Seems like there are a few places where everyone knows to go to drop the big numbers. This is just a statement and has nothing to do with this guys numbers its pretty much a trend I have noticed. I guess ya never know until they hit the track if the numbers are inflated.
Old Mar 29, 2006 | 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Billiumss
WS6 Kid,

I just saw this post: https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=478242

You are so full of ****, it's not even funny.

Unless A&A comes in here and defends you and proves that SD tuning will automatically gain you 20 more HP, then all you are doing is spreading useless info for your combo. Are you trying to do some BS marketing technique for them?

Sorry dude, but with your mods, a MAF is not that restrictive. Same rules apply to make power for MAF and SD tuning: fuel, air, spark. It is so obvious that you don't know a damn thing about tuning.

Enjoy your lies........
There have always been some freaky 01/02 cars that made huge numbers cam only. I think while back there were 2 or 3 cars that made 430`s with just a g5x2 and x3 cams. Which this cam is pretty simular too. I dont know any thing about this guy or this car but it could just be one of those freaks...
Old Mar 29, 2006 | 09:33 AM
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I learned long ago not to dyno race your car...in the end you'll always find a way to loose. This car makes 430/410 whereas 4 posts away theres a heads/same cam car making 430/380. Im happy you put up some big #'s but take it to the track to see how you compare...thats usually a better sign.
Old Mar 29, 2006 | 10:40 AM
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You do pick up some power going to speed density. Ive heard its around 2-3%. 5.0 mustang guys used to go with speed density in max effort n/a applications.

I want to try the torquer cam with the dart heads. If the compression is right it should fly.
Old Mar 29, 2006 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by dug
You do pick up some power going to speed density. Ive heard its around 2-3%. 5.0 mustang guys used to go with speed density in max effort n/a applications.
In my case, SD tuning gained me about 5 rwhp. This was mostly from eliminating the 85mm MAF as a restriction. My KPa readings moved 1-2 points at WOT. That means I was pulling less of a vacuum without the MAF. FWIW, my MAF tune was as good as my SD tune (from a WOT standpoint). So in my view, the gains I received were from eliminating the MAF restriction.
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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Billiumss
WS6 Kid,

I just saw this post: https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=478242

You are so full of ****, it's not even funny.

Unless A&A comes in here and defends you and proves that SD tuning will automatically gain you 20 more HP, then all you are doing is spreading useless info for your combo. Are you trying to do some BS marketing technique for them?

Sorry dude, but with your mods, a MAF is not that restrictive. Same rules apply to make power for MAF and SD tuning: fuel, air, spark. It is so obvious that you don't know a damn thing about tuning.

Enjoy your lies........
Youre a stupid *** man. Why would I lie? Thats the whole ******* reason i posted this because it was unusual. A&A will be in here soon...
Old Mar 29, 2006 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by offaxis
Patrick

There seem to be a few happy dynos around these days. Seems like there are a few places where everyone knows to go to drop the big numbers. This is just a statement and has nothing to do with this guys numbers its pretty much a trend I have noticed. I guess ya never know until they hit the track if the numbers are inflated.
I see why you guys might doubt but im telling you thats what the car made.

RyneZ06 took his 05 GTO with the same cam and setup (+ true duals, 6.0 liters, higher compression, better flowing heads, and FAST setup) and it made 447hp/430 or something similar on the same day so it wasnt the dyno.
I just called A&A and he told me he doesnt post on here anymore because you guys are so full of ****. I will try to get Charlie to come in here but whether or not he does it doesnt matter...THATS THE POWER MY CAR MADE AND THERE WILL BE TRACK TIMES TO BACK IT UP SOON.

You can be as jealous as you want Billiumss...

Just imagine if I had a FAST setup and true duals...

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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by WS6 Kid

You can be as jealous as you want Billiumss...

No reason to be when it's not the truth....

I'm not the only doubter here...
Old Mar 29, 2006 | 12:14 PM
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We tuned Will's car and that's what it rolled. I don't know what else can be said. It's what it is - but there's always somebody who has yelps like their nuts got pinched

Think about it, why would we care what his car dyno's - or why would we facilitate a lie?

I went through this same "can't happen and I call BS" crap when I first posted AFR's results last year. Fine, it can't happen...and, as a matter of fact, it still doesn't for a lot of users but for some - they hit the numbers. Now what do you say?
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i was there i was dynoing my car 05 GTO same night, his car put down 430 rwhp 409rwtq, no lie, no nothing, its just a freak car, my LS2 put 447 rwhp, 426 rwtq, the same night with maf tune using crappy ls2 edit. some cars are freaks, let it go guys
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Originally Posted by Tuner@AandACorvette
We tuned Will's car and that's what it rolled. I don't know what else can be said. It's what it is - but there's always somebody who has yelps like their nuts got pinched

Think about it, why would we care what his car dyno's - or why would we facilitate a lie?

I went through this same "can't happen and I call BS" crap when I first posted AFR's results last year. Fine, it can't happen...and, as a matter of fact, it still doesn't for a lot of users but for some - they hit the numbers. Now what do you say?
The end.
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I love it!!! Im so glad that has been cleared up. I dont know how you can argue with the guy who tuned the car but Im sure someone will find some way to discredit WS6kids results. I say great numbers and who cares if nobody believes you...its your car, you drive it, you mod it, and you know what it can do. Congrats!! NOW GO RUN THAT SUMBITCH AND SEE WHAT SHE CAN DO!!!

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