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Old 09-08-2006, 12:08 PM
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Default Vengeance Racing/TrickFlow Do it again!!!! 488RWHP/430RWTQ 346 STREET CAR!!!!

Im pretty stoked about this one guys!!! These TrickFlows are doing the job!!! Setup consists of the following

2002 LS1 F body-M6-10 bolt 4:11s-315/35/17 Drag Radials

TrickFlow Heads-59cc chambers-massaged by Vengeance Racing
Vengeance Racing Custom Camshaft-VRX1
SLP Lid
SLP 85mm Maf
Nick Williams 90mm TB
FAST 90mm Intake Ported by Vengeance
Dynatech 1 3/4 Longtubes-ORY
GMMG Chambered exhaust
Vengeance Ported Oil pump
Double Roller timing chain
ASP UnderDrive pulley
Meziere STREET pump
Vengeance Racing Custom Programming

Car was tuned to 28.5* total timing and 12.9 A/F... This is a DAILY DRIVER
No notching of the pistons, no dyno tricks, just straight out awesome power!!!!!

There should be a few left in it with some more tuning.We are still on the stock 02 injectors and fuel pump... Hoping for 500rwhp in a week or so when we get back on the dyno with the upgraded parts.

Customer also has a Textralia clutch with the steel flywheel, so thats not helping things















Below is a graph overlay Stock/Bolt ons Vs Vengeance/TrickFlow Results




Anyone interested in this package is welcome to shoot me a PM or email. We will be putting together a Sale in the Sponsor Sale forums in the next few days as well.

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Very Impressive set-up!
Can you share the cam spec?
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very nice and can u share the cam specs as stated abouve?
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Very nice,even looks like there is more there by the dip at 6000rpm.
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Very very nice, I could do with some heads (well different ones!), do you mind sharing the cam specs? Thats dang impressive for a 346 with untouched pistons! Nice job.
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WOW!

400+ lb ft of torque from 3700-6300
420 lb ft of torque from 4500-6000

Definitely not a "peaky" power curve like some of the other high HP head/cam cars.

488 RWHP SAE, that has to be a non flycut piston record!!

Great job guys!! Maybe you should box up and ship one of those cams for my car

BTW, how does that compare to some of the best RWHP you have seen from some of the other heads on the market?
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real nice #'s. add a 12bolt and loose 15 hp go to a stang dyno and loose another 20hp like i did. i got 463hp 414tq 12bolt 4.11 on a stang dyno no tricks on a street car w/steel flywheel dynoed in 90deg heat too. your set up is nice,powerful too.

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..... Or I could dyno when its 68* outside and pick up 20rwhp and make over 500rwhp... or I could swap injectors and the fuel pump and make over 500rwhp in the same heat This package isnt done guys.... I just wanted to share the preliminary results!!!


The camshaft is a VRX1 Specs will be released soon......


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This combo is one of the most powerful we have done to date.... We havent compared anything to the other aftermarket heads, because we have been having such great luck with the TFS heads....




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real nice #'s. add a 12bolt and loose 15 hp go to a stang dyno and loose another 20hp like i did. i got 463hp 414tq 12bolt 4.11 on a stang dyno no tricks on a street car w/steel flywheel too. your set up is nice,powerful too.
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Very, very nice #'s.
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I can't waite to get back to Atlanta and pick up my car. Needs to be flogged at the track. Starting to save for the 12-bolt now. Track times to come w/sissy launches on 10-bolt. Thank you Mike and Ron @ Vengeance!! Money well spent!!!
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that tq is just phenominal. I think that tells the real story of how effective the heads are. It appears these heads are capable of much more with the right setup (cam/intake) in an all out race application.

but this street setup is incredible.
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Originally Posted by SlickVert
Very Impressive set-up!
Can you share the cam spec?
The cam specs are nothing special guys. I will tell you it is smaller than a T-Rex. You guys can make up the rest.

The great thing about this car is how well it drives and starts hot with the A/C on perfect everytime.

I think we can probably go for around 495 with a few other changes. I know with a 12 bolt we will lose of few but I still think the car will be in the 480's with a 12bolt.

I am looking for a good LS2 customer to shoot for around 500PLUS RWHP with a setup similar to this one with a few minor changes. With the extra cubes of the LS2 I honestly feel we can make 500 plus on a stock bottom end. If I do it I will post of the graph but I am very happy with this setup. (FOR NOW )

Well that my post for the Summer Season. See you guys
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Wow, that is some major power. My goal is to have a set-up like that but I want to be sure I'm picking the right bolt-ons for now.

I'm thinking about going GMMG as well, do you think you would have made a lot more power with a true dual set-up, or only a couple more HP?
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Outstanding numbers!

It's interesting that you posted the before dyno graphs as 340/360 rwhp/rwtq because Weekend Racer quoted his pre-heads/cam numbers as 360/382 from this:

2002 Camaro SS w/full bolt-ons 11,000 miles
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1 3/4 dynatech supermaXX LT headers no cats
90/90 Tb/intake
85 mm MAF sensor
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Lid w/K&N filter
Cold air kit
tubular subframes
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Stock 10-bolt w/4.10 gears
Dyno results: 360 rwhp 382 ft.lbs.torque following dyno tune
1/4 mile: 12.78 @ 111 mph at Commerce in Atlanta GA/ hot as hell outside crappy track prep
60 ft time: 1.92 w/ Nitto drag radials
Heads bought/ cam will be 232/234

A 128 rwhp/48 rwtq gain sounds like the real before/after numbers and not 148 rwhp/70 rwtq gain. Not trying to take anything away from the numbers, like I said, they're outstanding! I'm just trying to get a handle on how much power the TFS heads and mystery cam added. I'm always looking for more power myself.
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Great numbers! Those Trick Flow heads are really making the power.
I am running the Trick Flow heads and am also very pleased with the results.

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..... Or I could dyno when its 68* outside and pick up 20rwhp and make over 500rwhp
Why would temperature make that much a difference if the numbers are SAE corrected?
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Originally Posted by Miles in Florida
Why would temperature make that much a difference if the numbers are SAE corrected?
yeah it compensates to a point, but only to a point, there still is variables that compensated for
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Very impressive #'s thru 4.10's

Originally Posted by Weekend Racer
I can't waite to get back to Atlanta and pick up my car. Needs to be flogged at the track. Starting to save for the 12-bolt now. Track times to come w/sissy launches on 10-bolt. Thank you Mike and Ron @ Vengeance!! Money well spent!!!
Congrats man & keep up posted with ETs

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Originally Posted by [email protected]
We are still on the stock 02 injectors and fuel pump...
Good news! New injecters and high volume fuel pump is not needed.
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Great results Ron, and Mike. Any results with this cam and stock LS6 heads? Some of us might want to go cam only for a while, and get the TFS heads when the budget allows.

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