what will it take to beat this mustang?
02-11-2009, 03:48 PM
#62
Well at first everyone warned him was about to get banned, then everyone tried to explain how fast each car was and then everyone argued their points. So now we are just at the point where we can answer the question the OP asked but he didn't provide enough info. So its about the normal progression of these threads when they get posted in the wrong section at first.
02-11-2009, 03:56 PM
#63
Teching In
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 46
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Yeah, we should have got more info.
And all I was trying to say was, 320rwhp, Vette being lighter by what, about 60 lbs or so? And about the same rwhp if it's an LS1 6-speed, I don't see how he would win from a stop without tires, or from a roll where the 4.10s may actually hurt him if the race goes long enough, let alone going up against an LS2 or LS3, which would put down even more rwhp. Not sure how that's far from the truth, talking about the car in question??
But regardless, the race is against an F-Body A4. So if the F-Body doesn't roast the tires, he should take him out of the hole and lose from a roll.
And finally in a round-about way to answer the actual question lol...what mods? Lid, cut-out are cheap easy mods. If you have more money, stall and tires you'd destroy him from a stop...or like previously said, nitrous is not too expensive, however I prefer forced induction...
Of course, there's always cam, heads, longtubes, etc. Many options. It's just how much do you have to spend?
And all I was trying to say was, 320rwhp, Vette being lighter by what, about 60 lbs or so? And about the same rwhp if it's an LS1 6-speed, I don't see how he would win from a stop without tires, or from a roll where the 4.10s may actually hurt him if the race goes long enough, let alone going up against an LS2 or LS3, which would put down even more rwhp. Not sure how that's far from the truth, talking about the car in question??
But regardless, the race is against an F-Body A4. So if the F-Body doesn't roast the tires, he should take him out of the hole and lose from a roll.
And finally in a round-about way to answer the actual question lol...what mods? Lid, cut-out are cheap easy mods. If you have more money, stall and tires you'd destroy him from a stop...or like previously said, nitrous is not too expensive, however I prefer forced induction...
Of course, there's always cam, heads, longtubes, etc. Many options. It's just how much do you have to spend?
02-11-2009, 07:54 PM
#65
TECH Regular
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 442
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Whats your budget Rio? If your on a small budget then get some LTs, tune, intake, and port and polish ls6 TB. That will put you where you need to be. Stall is way too expensive if your on a small leash.
02-12-2009, 12:15 AM
#66
TECH Apprentice
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: CA
Posts: 335
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
02-12-2009, 12:54 PM
#67
If he trapped 109 and put down 333 SAE on a Dynojet, it's not a bone stock car. You said stock 01-02s. I would know, my brother and I both own 2002 LS1s and my dad owns an 04 GTO with an LS1 in it, not to mention about a dozen friends of mine who have 98-04 LS1s (Fbodies and Vettes). And they've all been dynoed SAE on a dynojet and been run at the track about a million times.
I had paper filter in, factory RSAs, full tank of 89 octane, no weight reduction, and the only options I dont have are the 12 disc, leather seats and traction control.
Last edited by S8ER95Z; 02-12-2009 at 01:00 PM.
02-12-2009, 02:57 PM
#68
On The Tree
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: West Chester, PA
Posts: 199
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
02-12-2009, 03:14 PM
#69
Teching In
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: PEARLAND TX
Posts: 15
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
we have had bone stock ls1 6spd cars on dr"s run 12.99 here in houston i dont know what the deal is with yall sayin that a 330hp ls1 is only runnin 13.4 and i have NEVER seen a 320 hp 2v run no better than 13.1...... all you will need man is tune stall long tubes intake and most likely gears i would go with 3.73"s
02-12-2009, 03:20 PM
#70
Teching In
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: PEARLAND TX
Posts: 15
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
oh btw how the hell are you gona say that a 330hp 2v will run 12.1 and 12.3 when a terminator which is around 400 hp stock wont run but around 12.6-12.7 and its got a close ratoin 6spd vs the t-5 5spd in the gt man it just dont sound right to me
02-12-2009, 04:49 PM
#71
we have had bone stock ls1 6spd cars on dr"s run 12.99 here in houston i dont know what the deal is with yall sayin that a 330hp ls1 is only runnin 13.4 and i have NEVER seen a 320 hp 2v run no better than 13.1...... all you will need man is tune stall long tubes intake and most likely gears i would go with 3.73"s
12.9 is weak sauce for DRs.
02-12-2009, 08:26 PM
#72
***Repost Police***
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: DFW, TX
Posts: 2,480
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
we have had bone stock ls1 6spd cars on dr"s run 12.99 here in houston i dont know what the deal is with yall sayin that a 330hp ls1 is only runnin 13.4 and i have NEVER seen a 320 hp 2v run no better than 13.1...... all you will need man is tune stall long tubes intake and most likely gears i would go with 3.73"s
Cobras weigh 200-250lbs more than GTs and have an IRS vs. a SRA for the GTs. And for the record the 5spd in the GT is more of a "close ratoin" transmission than the T-56 in the Cobras.
02-12-2009, 08:33 PM
#74
***Repost Police***
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: DFW, TX
Posts: 2,480
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
You did read what mods the car has, right? If you think that's "270ish max," you need to do some more research. That car is definitely in the 320rwhp range, probably more like 330-340rwhp. And should be 330rwtq as well.
02-12-2009, 08:41 PM
#75
TECH Apprentice
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: CA
Posts: 335
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Hmmm.....Ls's must be alot richer than stangs from the factory. Stangs would need a tune on a 75.......well, you 'could' get away with it with a wet shot, although I wouldn't advise it. Oh man.....I'm so tempted to set you straight....but I won't.
I'll just say, you're wrong.
+1 ..........except the T56 has closer gears. The T3650 has steeper 1-2 and ever so slight 3rd ratios.
Uh.....are you serious?
And people want to know why I'm here.....well, two posts on this page is one of the reasons.....to correct the misinformed so the ignorance doesn't keep spreading.
I'll just say, you're wrong.
I doubt you've ever seen a 320rwhp 2V Mustang. But a heads/cams/bolt-ons GT should have absolutely NO problem running mid 12s.
Cobras weigh 200-250lbs more than GTs and have an IRS vs. a SRA for the GTs. And for the record the 5spd in the GT is more of a "close ratoin" transmission than the T-56 in the Cobras.
Cobras weigh 200-250lbs more than GTs and have an IRS vs. a SRA for the GTs. And for the record the 5spd in the GT is more of a "close ratoin" transmission than the T-56 in the Cobras.
And people want to know why I'm here.....well, two posts on this page is one of the reasons.....to correct the misinformed so the ignorance doesn't keep spreading.
02-12-2009, 09:08 PM
#76
I ran a 100 shot for a while untuned.
02-12-2009, 09:12 PM
#77
***Repost Police***
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: DFW, TX
Posts: 2,480
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
02-12-2009, 09:54 PM
#78
I've seen a couple of guys get away with 100 shots on a completely stock LS1 and LT1. I wouldn't do it but I have seen it more than a few times. GM computers are, from what I've witnessed, more adaptable than Ford or Chrysler. I wouldn't run any shot without tuning it.
02-12-2009, 10:41 PM
#79
On The Tree
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: West Chester, PA
Posts: 199
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I'm not sure. Personally, I wouldn't advise spraying anything more than a 50 shot untuned. I don't know how dangerous it is to spray 75 or 100 untuned, but better safe than sorry. It's worth the peace of mind.
02-12-2009, 10:53 PM
#80
TECH Apprentice
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: CA
Posts: 335
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Well, I know how on the edge you like to be. 
I kind of figured that's what you meant. IMO, the 3650 does have better gears for 1320. Some will disagree as the gears are closer in the 56. I prefer steeper gearing. That's just me. It doesn't help that I like a DD with ***** for weekend visits and Cobra's Clutchs are a bitch in traffic...IMO.
I just don't see it in mustangs much. I've heard of a few guys doing it in 2V's, but Kevin's the only one I've heard of in a 4V. Not saying it hasn't been done, just not as common I guess.
+1 to both of you guys on never doing it. That's why I posted earlier about 'KaBoom'. LOL
I've seen a couple of guys get away with 100 shots on a completely stock LS1 and LT1. I wouldn't do it but I have seen it more than a few times. GM computers are, from what I've witnessed, more adaptable than Ford or Chrysler. I wouldn't run any shot without tuning it.
+1 to both of you guys on never doing it. That's why I posted earlier about 'KaBoom'. LOL