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Old 02-11-2009, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by mrbigjeep
this is far from the truth...
Oh? How is a 320rwhp Mustang without drags going to beat a 6-speed LS1 Vette, given equal drivers?

Please...enlighten me...
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Originally Posted by PewterScreaminMach
What gears do you have, OP? Did you say it and I just missed it? Hopefully not 2.73s because that would be bad news for you. You're gonna need some bolt-ons to make that a good race.



I've never seen a bone stock 01-02 LS1 legitimately put down 320+ to the wheels SAE on a dynojet. 290-310, but 320+ is pushing it.
My friend whom I no longer keep in touch with over at LS1.Com put his '02 Z28 on the dyno and it put down 333rwhp. First time at the track he ran 13.2@109mph here in Southern California.

For whatever reason, the '01s and '02s seem to be a little more stout, not sure why. I do know they got the LS6 intake and the '02 6-speeds came with SLP's lighter flywheel from the factory as well...
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Originally Posted by 05WhiteSRT4
Oh? How is a 320rwhp Mustang without drags going to beat a 6-speed LS1 Vette, given equal drivers?

Please...enlighten me...
Weight reduction, gears, stall
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By the way...I own both...so I am not biased lol :p

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Originally Posted by ballhawkdawk
Weight reduction, gears, stall
Yeah but he didn't say he was doing weight reduction, unless I missed that.

No 320 rwhp Mustang is going to beat a Vette from a dig with 4.10s without traction (which he won't have on the stock tires).

And he will not pull away from an LS1 6-speed vette on a top-end roll. End of story. I'm not talking about a beat-on '97 Automatic A4 .

If you want to come up with - well my friend's grandmother's roommate...no. He beat the driver.

Put Nittos on that Mustang, different story from a stop. Wouldn't help with the roll race though.
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stall, dr's, full exhaust...= win
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Originally Posted by 05WhiteSRT4
Yeah but he didn't say he was doing weight reduction, unless I missed that.
He didn't say that, but I'm just trying to think of reasons how it could be done.
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Originally Posted by 05WhiteSRT4
My friend whom I no longer keep in touch with over at LS1.Com put his '02 Z28 on the dyno and it put down 333rwhp. First time at the track he ran 13.2@109mph here in Southern California.

For whatever reason, the '01s and '02s seem to be a little more stout, not sure why. I do know they got the LS6 intake and the '02 6-speeds came with SLP's lighter flywheel from the factory as well...
If he trapped 109 and put down 333 SAE on a Dynojet, it's not a bone stock car. You said stock 01-02s. I would know, my brother and I both own 2002 LS1s and my dad owns an 04 GTO with an LS1 in it, not to mention about a dozen friends of mine who have 98-04 LS1s (Fbodies and Vettes). And they've all been dynoed SAE on a dynojet and been run at the track about a million times.
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This makes a great BENCH RACING THREAD


05whitesrt4, your Z06 looks great.
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Originally Posted by JayplaySS2
This makes a great BENCH RACING THREAD


05whitesrt4, your Z06 looks great.
Took you long enough to find it...
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We had a huge dyno/tune day a few years ago, the 01+s seemed to put down anywhere from 319rwhp-335rwhp.

The '98-'00s were all over the map, anywhere from 279rwhp (convertible '00 A4) to 310rwhp (M6 '98).

All dyno's are different however, that dyno may have read a little higher than usual. Just posting the findings.
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Originally Posted by JayplaySS2
This makes a great BENCH RACING THREAD


05whitesrt4, your Z06 looks great.
Hey man! Was wondering when you'd chime in! Now I am going back and forth between a ProCharged or Vortech Si 6psi C5 Z06 or just the C6 Z06 in a couple years LoL.

Thanks for the compliment!
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Here's a full pic of the Bullitt. I love that car, even though it's woefully underpowered (it's the grocery getter lol).

They put different leather seats in that are much more comfortable than a regular GT's, the speedo is retro, and the shifter just looks slick with the silver ball matching the door sills that say "Bullitt" on them:

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Or you could just borrow my Z28 and peel the paint off the side that stang!!! LOL ..
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Originally Posted by PewterScreaminMach
If he trapped 109 and put down 333 SAE on a Dynojet, it's not a bone stock car. You said stock 01-02s. I would know, my brother and I both own 2002 LS1s and my dad owns an 04 GTO with an LS1 in it, not to mention about a dozen friends of mine who have 98-04 LS1s (Fbodies and Vettes). And they've all been dynoed SAE on a dynojet and been run at the track about a million times.
I watched a member here (JamRWS6) run a 12.99 @ 110mph with just a whisper lid and some SFCs. '02 WS6 6spd.
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Originally Posted by 02ravenws6
man my ta with only exhaust and a 75 shot untuned will stomp on that stang. if u dont want to spray get a set of 4:10s and a good stall converter.


OMG, I can't stop laughing.


Originally Posted by PewterScreaminMach
LTs, stall, 3.73s, tires, and a tune.
(tuned....jsut because Kevin brought it up..LOL)

Originally Posted by mrbigjeep
this is far from the truth...


Originally Posted by 05WhiteSRT4
Oh? How is a 320rwhp Mustang without drags going to beat a 6-speed LS1 Vette, given equal drivers?

Please...enlighten me...
.........LOL......ever hear of a mach one? at 320rwhp, with STOCK 3.55s upper 12s is darn near guaranteed.

And, WhoTF said they were equal drivers?

Originally Posted by 05WhiteSRT4
My friend whom I no longer keep in touch with over at LS1.Com put his '02 Z28 on the dyno and it put down 333rwhp. First time at the track he ran 13.2@109mph here in Southern California.

For whatever reason, the '01s and '02s seem to be a little more stout, not sure why. I do know they got the LS6 intake and the '02 6-speeds came with SLP's lighter flywheel from the factory as well...
Originally Posted by 05WhiteSRT4
We had a huge dyno/tune day a few years ago, the 01+s seemed to put down anywhere from 319rwhp-335rwhp.

The '98-'00s were all over the map, anywhere from 279rwhp (convertible '00 A4) to 310rwhp (M6 '98).

All dyno's are different however, that dyno may have read a little higher than usual. Just posting the findings.
Copy of said sheet, with proof of SAE correction please. I don't see how 109TS = 333rwhp in an Fbod. 315rwhp fbod's put out that TS. He's he weighed 'down'?



BTW - you do have a nice Bullit and Z06....diggin the blue's.
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Thanks! Yeah not sure of the weight of his car, it wasn't a stripper, he had power everything.

You guys are going off-topic again! We were talking about the OP's friend's (lol - now why does that sound funny) modded car with 4.10's on stock tires. He'll never get traction from a stop, and he won't see 12's in that case :p
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By the way rio95cobra are you racing from a stop, roll, or both?
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Originally Posted by 05WhiteSRT4
Thanks! Yeah not sure of the weight of his car, it wasn't a stripper, he had power everything.

You guys are going off-topic again! We were talking about the OP's friend's (lol - now why does that sound funny) modded car with 4.10's on stock tires. He'll never get traction from a stop, and he won't see 12's in that case :p
Welll, I wouldn't say never see traction. i would agree that he'll have a VERY hard time.

4.10s, new to power/setup, street tires = Up in smoke generally though.

But, he may show up with DRs. Who knows?
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Originally Posted by Stopsign32v
Thats all GM owners ever do..

"He's faster than you are? SPRAY HIM!!"

"He has a Viper? SPRAY HIM!!!"

"Her brother wants to race you? SPRAY HIM!!!!!"

"Her father hates you more now that you married her?? SPRAY HIM!!!!!!"
That's some funny ****.


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