lemons12

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I was just going by your theory.

Cahill93Z28

i think it would be a real good race. From a roll I could see the C5 being right with it.

Camaro Fan

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I think the GT will have it bag pretty easily.

You need to keep in mind that these 12.7-12.8 times for the GT are from the initial magazine testing from the likes of MotorTrend and C&D. They never got a LS1 Vette anywhere near those times in their testing. Heck I'm not sure they did much better with a C5Z in their tests. Comparing Motortrend's crap times to the C5 fastlist on Corvetteforum is beyond ludicrous. Those are the best times documented for stock C5s, I believe these 12.7-12.8s from the GT will prove to be average at best...

I wouldn't be surprised at all to see a well driven GT at a good track crack a mid 12 if not better. I expect they will bitchslap your average stock C5, especially an auto.

I'm really interested to see some results of the normal bolt ons/tune on the new GT. Be interesting to see if the car is really nearly tapped out or if simple mods still gain a fair bit. I'd like to get a couple bolt ons for my Z06 just to be on the safe side...

99FRCTorchRed

How about my little 100,000 mile plus frc..........

JaS5902

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Yup, sounds like another drivers race.

jimmyducati

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the 2011 GT is going to be way under rated power wise,,,, anyone remember the 390 hp that the 03-04 cobra supposedly put out at the flywheel? they typically DYNO'D 390!!! Ford is pulling the same thing here. Its probably their way of avoiding another performance recall like they did on the older DOHC cobra when they didn't put out nearly the advertised power.

Red99TA

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I don't think a C5 coupe will do well at all against the new 5.0. Now a C5Z is a different story obviously. I'm just glad Ford finally manned up and made a GT with some ***** for once.

LWCS561

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWZq_Geu9yM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUeUi...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBOHLoJih7c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nj6wWdapgm0

that being shown i think a basic mod vette ( cai, headers, tune) will take a new gt. The new stang will take the f bodies, and new camaro ( realize the camaro is alot heavier), but I still think the power and weight advantage with the vette, the vette will win. Remember you're taking a brand new car up against an at least 6 year old car. I'm tired of all the hype and bashing the f bodies have gotten with the new stang, but now the vette as well, when the car hasnt even hit the streets yet? come on guys.... And also about the f body to mach 1 comment. I had a basic bolt on ( headers, ex, lid, tune) on my 99 auto ws6, and i was able to beat mach 1's. It was close but I came out on top mid way through second.

lemons12

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With a competent driver behind both a stock C5 will NOT beat a 2010, not in any race.

C5s are bottom-mid 13 cars... 2010s are high 12s-bottom 13 cars... Once the mods start the 2010 gets a greater and greater win margin. It has more displacement, it should.

LWCS561

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put me up against a new camaro and ill beat him, in fact i already have. i just put up 4 videos of camaros being beaten by a corvette, a c5. Corvettes have a better power to weight ratio. Why do you think an f body can still take a car like the new challengers? because they're lighter. If the challenger was lighter, it'd for sure take the f body and mop the floor with it, same with the new camaro. the point is they're HEAVIER. Thats what sucks up those extra horses that they've tacked on. It would be a close race with a new 5.0. I just cant stand how people are talking so much smack on the f bods and now vettes when that car hasnt even hit the streets yet.

LWCS561

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and for the record, as far as a c5z and a regular c5 go, in hp numbers, it doesnt take much to get up to the 405..remember, that 405hp is to the crank. Once you put on headers, a good cai, and a good tune, you're right up there.

OKcruising

Just run from speed and let the aero and gearing do the work.

It'd be a fun match up for certain, but road course... Y-body any day of the week.

99C5JA

I ran a 13.1 @ 111 stock with a 2.x 60 time. Had a friend in another stock 6spd hit high 12's at 111 with better traction. Both cars were '99 coupes. Check Corvette forum. Low 13's high 12's aren't uncommon for 6spd cars. Last time I weighed the car it was about 3180 with most of a tank of gas in it. Much lighter than a GT. A 6spd C5 will definitely be a contender vs. the new GT. The 2.73 auto C5's won't be. The 3.15 autos might catch a break.

05WhiteSRT4

LOL! Man, lot of mis-information in this thread.

You think headers, cai, and tune are going to make a C5 LS1 run 116-119mph traps, which an '02+ Z does bone stock??? Dream on my friend.

It's not just the HP, it's the total package of the Z: M12 tranny, lightweight wheels, lighter titanium exhaust, thinner windshield, I could go on and on. Do some research.

A properly driven C5Z will beat the hell out of a bolt-on C5.

Go educate yourself: http://www.gmhightechperformance.com...ure/index.html

LWCS561

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6NfYfJL16o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wbgky0_Fxn8

there are two zo6's, and here's a c5 coupe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cG4zmH18YLw

so lets look at some numbers-

road and track report the z06 coming in at 13.1 in the quarter, stock.
http://musclecarfacts.net/2002-corvette.html

www.exoticcarsite.com reports the zo6 doing 13.0 - 2001 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 4.6 13.0

here's a 98 stock c5 doing a 13.3 in the quarter. now remember, the 98's were even rated LESS horsepower than the 01 and up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaPtN...eature=related

so if it's possible for a STOCK 1998 base c5 to go 13.3 in the 1/4 mile, and then the z06 coming in at between 12.7 and 13.1...then wouldnt it be possible for a 2002 base corvette, with bolt ons, to keep up with a z06? Does to me, and im sorry to burst your bubble if you're one of these uptight z06 owners who thinks nothing's as good as a z06, then you need to remove your head from your ***. I had a guy like that in my neighborhood..kept going on about 405 horsepower. I've got lt's, exhaust, NO tune, a port n polished throttle body, and a cold air intake. We raced and I won. Fair race. Thats all I have to say. Welcome to 2010

LWCS561

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also for the record, i NEVER said anything about trap speeds. I know alot goes into the z06. I know they're lighter, the titanium exhaust, all that, but when you make up it in horsepower, who's to say you cant get the same times. i rest my case

05WhiteSRT4

Not an uptight owner my friend. Just tired of all the BS on the Internet, and you're perpetuating it. The fact that you quote exoticcarsite says a lot.

You seriously think a Z does 13.1 in the quarter and 4.6 0-60? WOW. GM's own times (which are conservative) are 12.4@116. Go look them up.

I could post vids of grandmas driving Z's going 13.1 in the 1/4 too. I'm glad you beat your friend that doesn't know how to drive his Z. You beat the driver, not the car.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-z...fast-list.html

LS1Tech is filled with people who know what they're talking about and know what the C5Z can do, I expect them to chime in when they see this...

Seriously bro...it takes a pullied Cobra to keep up with/barely pull on a Z...now you're going to tell me you run with pullied Cobras too???

LWCS561

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what do you run in the quarter by chance? i didnt see your time up on that list...

05WhiteSRT4

Never taken it to the track, there's no 1/4 mile near my house. They do 1/8th mile runs at the stadium but it's a ways from my house, been too lazy to go. It's also my daily driver, and I will be the first to admit I'm not the ace driver that JROD and RANGER are

I switched over to the Z a couple years ago from a stage 3 SRT-4. That car was fun on the freeway but from a stop light the tires would just spin.

I lost to an AMG car (can't remember the type) from a light because I blew the tires off and he just pulled away and after that said "screw this", wanted to get back into RWD - thought about going back to an F-Body or Vette (have had 3 vettes and 3 F-Bodies in my life so far) and the prices on C5Zs have been dropping like rocks so I decided to pay a little more in monthly payments and just get something I KNOW I'd be happy with

Did you check out the fast list on corvetteforums? Another good forum is www.z06vette.com.

I plan on trading this one in and upgrading to a C6Z when this one is paid off - I don't think I'll ever be without monthly payments LoL

05WhiteSRT4

By the way back on topic, I think an auto C5 LS1 would lose to the new Ford Mustang GT. A 6-speed would be closer, I still think it would lose. You'd need a hardtop (i.e. lighter) M6 FRC or similar LS1 vette to keep up/possibly beat one.

Specs:
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...t_numbers.html

Check out the comparo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aB4vfZDYyO8