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02-02-2007, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by CaseyEaterMach1
WS6TransAm01 I would argue that although America was intended to be a Republic that it is actually a Democracy. .
02-02-2007, 09:57 AM
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Given the time and the inclination, I'm sure I could punch holes in at least 90% of the snippets that were posted by you. It's really not worth the effort, because liberals are deaf, dumb and blind to facts.. I see it every day.
In future years, the American people (all of them) will see that (in retrospect) President Bush was a great President and was right to stand his ground.
In future years, the American people (all of them) will see that (in retrospect) President Bush was a great President and was right to stand his ground.
In future years, the American people (all of them) will see that (in retrospect) President Bush was a not great President and was idiotic to stand his ground.
02-02-2007, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by obsolete346
In future years, the American people (all of them) will see that (in retrospect) President Bush was a not great President and was idiotic to stand his ground.
And just like Clinton who had us running like bitches out of Somalia, and look whats going on in Somalia now.
Bush is not the grestest pres by a long shot, but he is better then any lib that flip flops all over the place.
02-02-2007, 09:59 AM
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I'm surprised this is still open.
Actually, it takes 51 out of 49 votes or 51 out of 50 votes to pass a law through the Senate. It takes 67 votes to have a "super" majority and have a "veto proof" vote.
In the house, the numbers are 218 votes to pass a bill and 292 to have a super "veto proof" majority.
I think the founding fathers should have written into the Constitution that you have the right to vote, but you must prove you are smart enough to vote (like actually know some basic civics things, be able to at least name 3 cabnit members, the president, VP, the house and senate minority and majority leaders, stuff like that) to prove that you care enough to weight the issues and at least make an informed decisison.
As far as our Individual rights...we need an ammendment that says all rights preserved in the Bill of Rights are indeed individual rights.
Actually, it takes 51 out of 49 votes or 51 out of 50 votes to pass a law through the Senate. It takes 67 votes to have a "super" majority and have a "veto proof" vote.
In the house, the numbers are 218 votes to pass a bill and 292 to have a super "veto proof" majority.
I think the founding fathers should have written into the Constitution that you have the right to vote, but you must prove you are smart enough to vote (like actually know some basic civics things, be able to at least name 3 cabnit members, the president, VP, the house and senate minority and majority leaders, stuff like that) to prove that you care enough to weight the issues and at least make an informed decisison.
As far as our Individual rights...we need an ammendment that says all rights preserved in the Bill of Rights are indeed individual rights.
02-02-2007, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by obsolete346
Given the time and the inclination, I'm sure I could punch holes in at least 90% of the aruements you have posted. It's really not worth the effort, because conservatives are deaf, dumb and blind to facts.. I see it every day.
In future years, the American people (all of them) will see that (in retrospect) President Bush was a not great President and was idiotic to stand his ground.
In future years, the American people (all of them) will see that (in retrospect) President Bush was a not great President and was idiotic to stand his ground.
02-02-2007, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by sb427f-car
I'm surprised this is still open.
Actually, it takes 51 out of 49 votes or 51 out of 50 votes to pass a law through the Senate. It takes 67 votes to have a "super" majority and have a "veto proof" vote.
In the house, the numbers are 218 votes to pass a bill and 292 to have a super "veto proof" majority.
I think the founding fathers should have written into the Constitution that you have the right to vote, but you must prove you are smart enough to vote (like actually know some basic civics things, be able to at least name 3 cabnit members, the president, VP, the house and senate minority and majority leaders, stuff like that) to prove that you care enough to weight the issues and at least make an informed decisison.
As far as our Individual rights...we need an ammendment that says all rights preserved in the Bill of Rights are indeed individual rights.
Actually, it takes 51 out of 49 votes or 51 out of 50 votes to pass a law through the Senate. It takes 67 votes to have a "super" majority and have a "veto proof" vote.
In the house, the numbers are 218 votes to pass a bill and 292 to have a super "veto proof" majority.
I think the founding fathers should have written into the Constitution that you have the right to vote, but you must prove you are smart enough to vote (like actually know some basic civics things, be able to at least name 3 cabnit members, the president, VP, the house and senate minority and majority leaders, stuff like that) to prove that you care enough to weight the issues and at least make an informed decisison.
As far as our Individual rights...we need an ammendment that says all rights preserved in the Bill of Rights are indeed individual rights.
Then is vetoed it takes 67 votes to override the veto.
02-02-2007, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by brad8266
Your wrong, it takes 60 votes to break a fillibuster. A fillibuster has to be broken in order to vote on a measure. So a law can not even be voted on unitl the fillibuster is broken by at least 60 votes.
Then is vetoed it takes 67 votes to override the veto.
Then is vetoed it takes 67 votes to override the veto.
02-02-2007, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by brad8266
And just like Clinton who had us running like bitches out of Somalia, and look whats going on in Somalia now.
-- Rep. Tom DeLay (R - TX) on Clinton's actions in Bosnia
02-02-2007, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by brad8266
Bush is not the grestest pres by a long shot, but he is better then any lib that flip flops all over the place.
Yup no common sense, and he'll be great in the future. Anyone care to step away from insults and speculation.
02-02-2007, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnG_NJ
"You can support the troops, but not the President"
-- Rep. Tom DeLay (R - TX) on Clinton's actions in Bosnia
-- Rep. Tom DeLay (R - TX) on Clinton's actions in Bosnia
Clinton showing our weakness emboldened the islamic movements there and allowed bin laden to live, which had he had him killed 9/11 wouldnt have happened. And Bush cant run a good war for **** either.
02-02-2007, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by obsolete346
I guess I'll just sit in the company of the 70% of the country that has realized that Bush is not doing a good job.
02-02-2007, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by obsolete346
I guess I'll just sit in the company of the 70% of the country that has realized that Bush is not doing a good job.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Bush_Job_Approval.htm
02-02-2007, 10:26 AM
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http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm
Which he's still the lowest in recorded history.
02-02-2007, 10:27 AM
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And just so you know (oh no...here comes the evil biased fox news link.... 
) most americans DO think the war maters to their personal lives and security...
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,249479,00.html
http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/...aq_rls_web.pdf
) most americans DO think the war maters to their personal lives and security...http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,249479,00.html
http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/...aq_rls_web.pdf
02-02-2007, 10:29 AM
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Just so you know...Rasmusen and I think Fox both do polls of "likely voters". That IMHO is the most representative since those people care enough to vote, usually have a voice in our democratic / republic process, and have the right to complain.
I'm sure that's how Rasmusen does his.
I'm sure that's how Rasmusen does his.