Right, I run an extension from the factory harness so it's easily plugged into the o2 sensor. I then pull the wires back over the tunnel plate and zip tie them up.

If you don't do this then yes, you need to remove the manifold/downpipe or downpipe in order to get to the factory plug.

Fwiw o2 response has been great on all of the APS cars we have done.

 

I loathe this


and love this


And no more Y-pipe crap. I want a full 3" and two mufflers. And no more using standard band clamps anywhere. I've had an exhaust rattle since 2003 because NO band clamp has held my Y-pipe and I-pipe together, not even when N/A. Hopefully VASpeed would be able to do this come spring.

 

Damn! I take a vacation for a weekend and my thread just keeps going!

With the popularity of this thread on the Internet it really wouldn't surprise me if APS sees a large profit hit this quarter.

As I've said before I'm buying a used APS kit and am gonna look into getting certain parts copied. I don't give a damn what APS says about it.

That wouldn't surprise me at all.

The "wokka wokka" part made me laugh, I remember watching that stuff when I was a little kid! On a serious note; it looks like you posted up on quite a few forums! Unfortunatly ClubWRX erased your thread. It would be very interesting if a member on that forum gets a faulty turbo and then finds out that there was an erased warning thread.

Maybe we are getting a little silly. The thing is if we could get manifolds that would be one major part done. If we could get manifolds and an intercooler the only major parts we would need is cold piping and downpipes. My plan for my kit is APS exhaust manifolds, APS intercooler, filter>turbo and turbo>intercooler piping custom done by me, and finally custom downpipes (if needed). Friday before I left on my little weekend excursion I send BMR an e-mail about possibly building me a turbo K-Member with solid motor mounts. That way I would have the most space for Filter>Turbo and Turbo>Intercooler piping. I'm not a professional turbo kit builder by a long shot but I think I have this under control.

I'm not sure on what exact turbo I would use. Turbonetics is a ways from me but not out of driving distance for me. My dad rebuilds Garrett Turbine engines so we know some high up guys at Garrett and Honeywell (Garrett's parent company). I figure between those two I'll have the turbo situation taken care of.

With APS's questionable customer service I would be a little afraid of sending my turbos to them.

E-Mail them back and see what it would cost to get manifolds made. I have no problem having technical drawings made up of my APS manifolds and sending them to Zhejiang as "my own design".

In the first pic the downpipe was obviously made for a M6 car. Also, V-Band clamps FTMFW!

 

man thats beat

 

Greg forget you have a 4l80 in there ? Does anyone have a 4l80 with the top fitting on for electronic boost controller? It does suck for changing springs it looks like. I should have stayed m6 but autos and turbos get along so much better together.

 

Nope, OEM 4L60E. And it never had that 2mm clearance APS claimed. That waste gate cover was always pressed firmly against the pan.

 

So you didn't grind anything to make more clearance. Calongo think sent me some pics of his 4l80 swap but he ground a bit on passenger side and think notched bell housing on drivers side.

I would think it would obviously be hard to change out springs on that side. Have to unbolt the gate and then take off hat on the bench or would have to pull tranny to get to the gate springs?

Wonder if some other make of gates like turbosmart might fit on there and give a bit more clearance. already swapped out the aps blow offs to better turbosmart ones.

 

Wow, all good information here. Hope no reputable sponsors get stuck with any in stock kits.

 

As far as the warranty claims, and sending the turbos back at your cost.

What happens if you send the turbos in, and peter keeps them, just to get one last "F -YOU" in?

 

If anyone wishes to ship something to Australia, the best way to do so is via the US Postal Service. The cost to do so is about 1/2 of what it is to ship via Fed-Ex or via UPS. Each item shipped needs to be below 44 lbs.

I would recommend one of the new USPS flat rate boxes, and ship each turbo in a separate box. The cost is quite reasonable to do so comapred to other methods.

If APS does not wish to sell turbo kits, then perhaps they would be willing to allow someone to buy the manifolds from their supplier so that another shop can fabricate kits using those manifolds.

I am wondering if the best option is just to send out the Chinese turbos to a US rebuilder and replace the CHRA with a Mitsubishi unit if the OE APS turbo fails.

 

That might be, but man doesn't it suck to have to pay for a turbo twice.

APS probably knows that, and figure it's less work for them since people will take care of it themselves...

What a shitty deal.

 

Well I understand why the GT35r(s) wouldn't fit and plus the 20g downpipe wouldn't bolt up to the different exhaust housing on the GT35r. But is there not anyone that would be willing to upgrade ours as opposed to buying LG's turbo upgrade for $2800? I read something about buying center sections for the 20g (which I have yet to find) so why couldn't we do that and just send it off and have it upgraded? ie better bearings and if at all possible high flowing compressor wheels and maybe even a stronger shaft.... Wishful thinking, maybe but it doesn't hurt to ask...

 

Well I didn't sign the APS forum.I was scared to lose my money.So I called josh at kentucky turbo and I am having him build me a Twin 67 set up for my 441 LSX 6spd street car.he was very helpful and helped me out.can't wait till I hit the streets

 

i read the first 10 pages on this thread and must say APS FTL. I feel like Peter the representative of APS gives the lamest answers .....amateur

 

It's just redicuous.
I'm guessing that they are going out of business. I can't imagine any company that plans to continue business just let this ***** tarnish their reputation like this. Not mention his own. Good luck in the automotive world. I'd be scared to show my face at ANY event.
I did a google search on APS and this thread and several others including the GTO forum are linked to this thread. We need to do everything we can to warn potential customers outside of the forum world so, for search engine references:

APS turbo customer service APS turbo quality APS suck APS rip off APS chinese turbo turbos knockoff Air power systems quality Air power systems junk APS turbo fail APS (Absolute Pile of Shitaki) APS fitment APS f body APS GTO APS corvette APS G8 APS lancer evolution evo APS 350z APS g35 subaru sti wrx canada australia APS performance aps twin turbo tt APS peter issues APS turbocharger system crap

 

i had actually talked to a distributor of your in the columbus area and they said they are currently working on a twin turbo setup for the new camaro with your kit. it was on a l99 car.

 

Today i shipped 2 bad APS turbos off to Forced Inductions, so i'll have answers to what can be done or not. I wanted to ship them to APS, but at this point i dont trust them and will just find better ways on own. As for those center sections, i've seen them on ebay.

 

well, i was really excited to get the APS twin turbo kit on my 2010 camaro. but now, im not so excited. does anyone have any recommendations for a twin turbo setup for me since APS is out of the question now?

 

LMR!

 

the single turbo?