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Old 10-15-2009, 11:15 PM
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now just put another one in the other fog light
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Originally Posted by red90cobra
now just put another one in the other fog light
You read my mind.
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Lookin good!
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was able to salvage my old headers...

First one about done...need to get a carbide burr and some sanding drums so I can clean them up on the inside before I put the collector on...


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you can do that work yourself too? Damn it, I need to get a tig and start praticing.

Looks good, and cool that you were able to save the old ones, probably saved ya a bunch of cash and time.

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Originally Posted by JL ws-6
, you can do that work yourself too? Damn it, I need to get a tig and start praticing.

Looks good, and cool that you were able to save the old ones, probably saved ya a bunch of cash and time.
well...time yes...cash...no...I had already ordered a bunch of stuff when I found a way this morning to reuse them

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2nd header about done...



local welding supply store closed on saturdays I still need to find a carbide bur tool to port the insides of the primaries before welding on the collectors...will buy that Monday...

Used a Harbor freight windshield removal too and it worked as advertised to pull the front windshield Will be replacing with Percy's lexan front

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great work wish i was that motivated like i use to be
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The new setup looks very nice. How competitive are you looking to be? The reason I ask is if you look at what everyone of the big dogs is running you are kind of bringing a knife to a gun fight. I like the idea of stepping up to the 25.3.
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Originally Posted by Beaflag VonRathburg
The new setup looks very nice. How competitive are you looking to be? The reason I ask is if you look at what everyone of the big dogs is running you are kind of bringing a knife to a gun fight. I like the idea of stepping up to the 25.3.
I don't have the bankroll for a 600 BBC and twins... so I'll just stay a small dog on the porch

Phil's 106 setup has already been 7.20s without him leaning on it too hard...

I predominantly run 1/8 mile anyway...high 4s is still reasonably competitive
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Originally Posted by Fireball
I don't have the bankroll for a 600 BBC and twins... so I'll just stay a small dog on the porch

Phil's 106 setup has already been 7.20s without him leaning on it too hard...

I predominantly run 1/8 mile anyway...high 4s is still reasonably competitive
Phil's setup is one of the quickest 106 setups out there. He's also running a much larger engine with a better top end. For what you plan on doing though it sounds like a really good combo.

I'd love to build something like this, but mine is just a pile of parts including Phil's old S95 and won't be near as nice or quick as yours. That and it is going to take me another 2-3 years to finish at this rate.
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no need for a big block with twins-i think we have proven so far that a small block with a single can be competetive.We have alot more left in Phil's.
If Brian can get the weight out of his car-4.80's with the 388 and single 106 will easily be attainable.While that not be the fastest-i know we can be consistant and that will win more races that being the fastest.

Looking good Brian-get to cutting some weight out
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how much weight does the percy glass save over stock?

if you did the front and back hatch?

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Originally Posted by Nimitz87
how much weight does the percy glass save over stock?

if you did the front and back hatch?

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Get a formula hatch too, that's about 15 lbs lighter then the transam one is.

The 5 inch sloped ws6 hood is about 37 lbs I figure after adding the rails and whatnot to mount it (I have both sitting here, so the #'s are solid)


Cut the cowl off too to the base of the windshield, and you can also dogbox it and run the piping strait backwards which will save a good bit on the tubing weight, and also make the engine bay alot easier to work on with less plumbing in the way.

Cutting the cowl back, and dogboxing it where the hood comes up, probably good for another 10 lbs, and with the lexan windshield, mine as well do it now.
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Originally Posted by JL ws-6
Get a formula hatch too, that's about 15 lbs lighter then the transam one is.

The 5 inch sloped ws6 hood is about 37 lbs I figure after adding the rails and whatnot to mount it (I have both sitting here, so the #'s are solid)


Cut the cowl off too to the base of the windshield, and you can also dogbox it and run the piping strait backwards which will save a good bit on the tubing weight, and also make the engine bay alot easier to work on with less plumbing in the way.

Cutting the cowl back, and dogboxing it where the hood comes up, probably good for another 10 lbs, and with the lexan windshield, mine as well do it now.
I'm thinking of losing the TA wing in favor of a Joe Van O rear wing...
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Originally Posted by Fireball
I'm thinking of losing the TA wing in favor of a Joe Van O rear wing...
I suppose no rear wing would not be as beneficial as the Joe Van wing?
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Old 10-19-2009, 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Fireball
I'm thinking of losing the TA wing in favor of a Joe Van O rear wing...
That may be a lighter option, I don't know how easy it is to open the hatch with that on there (if it's the one with the little bars that attach to the bumper cover)

Eastside has a pin on hatch on the orange car from VFN, the whole hatch. It fit pretty good, but it was a pita IMO to take on/off compared to the regular hatch. Do you have a pic of the joe van o wing? Curious what that one looks like on a pontiac, if it's the same one as the camaro, it may/may not look good.
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The Joe Van O wing is bad *** and looks sick on a T/A

Mark Koehler has one on his car


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stock wing is ~20lbs

the wing attaches to the body...not the hatch.
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