Greg how much do U want for the turbo kit?

Mr Raymer how much do U need to install and tune said kit?

Greg I have a TNT F-1 wet kit with all the bells and whistles including a digital progressive controler, (F.R.E.D.) and hundreds of flawless passes, with nothing more than a MAF translator for tuning!

Maybe we can work a deal!

 

FI is a constant headache. I agree you should probly sell the kit if your already stressed having just installed the kit you`ll be a total wreck in 6 months. It`s a constant broke this, bent that, blew a hole in this and tuning. I`ve had my kit for 3 years now and have droped more then 18 grand into the car and i`m not making much more power then you are so don`t feel alone on this. But this is what i love to do and if i did not have the TTA i`d be moding somthing else, Will it be worth it in the end i don`t know but i`ll sure go through numerous sets of tires finding out. Just have fun with it, now that you have a turbo you have the potential to make a ton of power, it just takes time and alot of patience.

 

Couldn't have said it better myself! Did you notice that even I have over 100 dyno pulls on the Project Formula?

If you expected to just throw a turbo kit on and make 500rwhp without a hitch, that was your first mistake.

Did you change plugs like I told you to before you went to the dyno? What are they gapped at? Was this through full exhaust, or open? If it was full exhaust, then you were losing AT LEAST 30rwhp!

I tried calling Slowhawk, but he was gone to lunch. I would have tried calling you transdamit, but I think you and I both need some "cool down" time before we talk.

Either way, it's the weekend. Sorry, but I'm going to at least spend the rest of my day with my family.

 

Like everyone said, be patient. I got the Incon kit put on my car, and with no tuning I only pulled like 390rwhp. Now with tuning and water/alky, I'm at 575. And it took me 2 years to get it to this point!! I know you're frustrated, I've felt your pain many times. Be patient for a bit, it will all work out!

- Dug

 

start stocking up on antidepressents. J/K.

 

with low boost and your "installation" id say youre ok where you are at. im not sure where youre shopping, but a boost controller does not have to cost $500. i have a manual controller that costed me about $40 and is more than i need. as stated a bijillion times...be patient...and see the doctor, i think youre bipolar.

 

I actually think the manual boost controllers are preferrable.

Less things to worry about.

 

Hey Rob, what plugs/gap do you recommend? PM if you get the chance sometime

 

Not to answer for Rob but FI people and moderate boost levels often use TR6's gapped at .030-0.035. I found the gap tended to open after a couple K miles so I gapped them closer.

I did this with both my 95 and 98 without problems. (9#'s boost on the 95 and 6#'s on the 98)

 

Calm Down, step away from it for a day or two. Look at what I dealing with on my ASP ATI LS1 F-Body Cog set up. They were suppose to bolt on, but I have had a ton of issues with them, its just a matter of working them out. This is how FI is, better get use to it.

If Rob is willing to help you with it, and it looks like he wants to, let him help. Listen to him, this is his kit and he knows how to tune it, trouble shoot it and get it to produce huge numbers. How many other sponsors are here on this forum as much as Rob is. He is pretty accessible use that to your advantage. He will help you getting it running right, I feel we are all pretty sure of it.

Start trouble shooting piece by piece, you will get it running strong.
J

 

U mean how is the kit that Don never got to go better than 12.8 when in his own car, and then later, when sold to me, and on my "Stock" car, and tuned by me, with a lowly Maf translator, beat his 426 hp/390 tq "Very Slowhawk" on the highway, (Route 24 North) from a roll!

Oh yeah, and all this on my stock engine thru factory cats, manifolds, stock torque convertor and a factory 10 bolt run on street tires!

It works very well thanx!

 

Lmao!

I mean the night U dynoed one of your $10,000 dollar plus mods (a certain cam shaft) and then with a certain head porter on board U still couldn't beat me!

C'mon cetainly U remember that!

I know both he and I do!

 

Yea, keep the car! And the turbo kit....nothing's wrong with it either! Just needs some time to sort things out and then tune it.

ChrisARE360 - Yes, that's exactly the plugs and gap we use. TR6's gapped at .032-.035. The reason I said he should have changed plugs, was because he told me on the phone that he had been driving it and it had been going into failsafe mode and loading up. Due to the BOV being adjusted improperly, apparently.
Anyone who knows turbo's knows how important it is to have good plugs in them. It's unreal the amount of HP you can loose with even "slightly" fouled plugs.

 

I think it's a bit difficult to troubleshoot this guy's combo in a thread like this when it's not clear (to me) whether there is a list of things to work through and whether they are being worked through.

If you dyno again, I suggest letting folks know beforehand so they can maybe take a phone call during the session.

It takes time to get stuff all working right, sounds like your BOV might not have been installed right but I'm having difficulty following the thread.

 

This is where to show your metal. Trans, I'd be pissed at the initial outcome after all the waiting to, but just hate to see ya give up. I imagine the main reason for wanting to give up is you feel like your the customer and your getting dissed. This was all predictable as very few have success so early after an install. The mix of forced induction and fuel injection is so dependent. Other than moving on, I'd say...
1. Swallow it, take the high road from here and work it out with don and Rob. Cooler jets will prevail. Blame, whether due or not, gets nowhere. And beleive me, I know its a hard pill to swallow. We depend on the support of our vendors and most importantly friends or those perceived to be. Don't forget there are livelyhoods involved here, keeping things private in the SHORT TERM , broken promises or not, is always the best move in such a sensative situation.
2. Take the bull by the horns, become a customer of other vendors. I would guess this is a bigger roll of the dice, but may grant you more immediate satisfaction... but it surely will cost more. Dropping the car off at say TurboPeople, along with a couple thousand bucks, and saying "make everthing good" would put you in a position of completion, all be it without the personal satisfaction of being involved.

Hang tight, there are lots of us, including Don and Rob i would guess, that want to see that thing where it should be. I for one am pulling for ya. Get that boost to 7+ lbs and watch those dyno numbers grow. I too, have been left out in the cold at times, we all have. It's too bad this thread, and the events involved for that matter, even exists.
For even more fun, buy a CAS kit. Tony is a pure joy.

 

 

fun fun fun. i think it was a wise to make this a install only kit.

 

There is no reason to want to get rid of the kit...As I told Transdamit before and still do say,"I'll be here to help whenever you need me" That stands for all my customers I've dealt with..We know what the problem was..Boost dropping at higher rpm.Let's fix it and and move on.As we see here the first step would be to block off the BOV and change the spark plugs.
I said the other night when we get some progress on the boost pressure drop,we will put the car on the dyno again,for no extra cost.
I'll be at the shop this week,you can drop the car off at my house and I'll take care of the plug change at the shop and redyno it during the day.I can't offer more than I already have for only here to tune the car.

 

That is great service Slowhawk especially considering you didnt do the install!

 

I guess this is why LPE deosn't offer their TT systems as kits. Anyone who does should include a 2 months prescription of high dose ritalin.