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Old Jan 12, 2004 | 12:39 PM
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I have to be carfull what I say here. I had some words with a couple parties on here.
I do have one thing to say that Might start a bit of trouble. TOLD EVERYONE SO!!!!
meening, when I first got my CAS kit everyone was picking me apart for only 511 rwhp @ 6 psi. I said from the begining, anyone that thinks any kit(not just Robs) will bolt on and give you 600 hp is NUTS!!!! the bugs that have to be worked out are never ending, as soon as you fix it, be ready for another bug. i been there done that and man the t-shirt sucked.
I had more stupid little peddy problems with my car. From a melted boost gauge tube to cracked header to small *** leak in hoses to bad boost controlers. everything. It takes a lot of time and paysions.(sp) I have been lucky to have such a great group of guys behind me helpin anyway possable. ESP, Speed Inc, Some place not a sponser, and everyone here on ls1tech. with out these guys Id be screwed!! they help alot.
Sounds to me like Don is willing to help anyway possable as well. So trans, be patentent and calm and Smart about things ($500 boost controler, I have a manual one if you want to try it for free, let me know. Tubo xs)
Again, always start with the easy stuff first. I had a boost drop I checked,fixed, took apart everything. I was thinking BOV Waist gates, I was ready to Dump Thosands into this thing when Tony and ESP said it is prob simple. So i said screw it, went to a couple places, found all new rubber fittings (about $100 worth ) and new clamps (double on every conection) and replaced them, couldnt find any problem with any of them, no leaks no holes nothing, But I fired it up and It was fine.
Be patient and Remember Im close to your town, if you need another hand or parts i might have let me know! I'll help you out, I want to see that thing run!!!!!
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Old Jan 12, 2004 | 05:57 PM
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Well Brad with claims like this:

"Initial dyno testing was completed on customer Shawn Stewart's '01 WS6 6 speed Trans Am. Prior to installation of our Single Turbo System, his car dynoed 313 rwhp / 328 rwtq. After installing our complete kit and dialing the boost to 9lbs, we managed 534rwhp / 687rwtq at a safe 12:1 A/F ratio. That's an increase of 221 REAR WHEEL HP and 360 REAR WHEEL FT/LB of TORQUE ! (This was done with the completely stock engine, through an open exhaust.) "

Can you blame poor greg LOL! If this comes through for greg after the bugs then he will walk everyone of us with that kind of TQ Greg needs to see all the crap we put up with, you,me, don we all have had our **** luck with one setup or another. But thats just the fun of it to me. Imagine if greg decides to get up to your boost level 11-12 psi. Scary power from a single. I will stick to my h/c/nos setups and leave the advanced **** to the patient people. On thing for sure if the powers there Don will find it.
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Old Jan 12, 2004 | 06:13 PM
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I never said the kit wouldnt do it. But it wont do it in 3 days. it takes time and some extra work. Thatss what i mean, it aint no bolt on header, it is lots of custom stuff!
And like i said it looks like don is willing to help, just looks like people started out a bit off. It will work out for him, i know it will. I know i went threw it and still do.
but when its good, its GOOD!!
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Old Jan 12, 2004 | 11:20 PM
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Correct. This wasn't our first rodeo even with Shawn's car. Ed Wright did the tuning and we spent two days at his shop tuning it. TWO DAYS. That's from 7am-5pm EACH DAY. And Ed HAD done turbo LS1's before! We've spent literally weeks and over 100 dyno pulls dialing the Formula in. And anyone should expect that within a couple of hours Transdamit would make 500rwhp??? Possible....but not likely.

I'm positive that Don has the ability to tune it, and given the opportunity, I'm sure he'll get it tuned. There were obviously a lot of potential problems with the install that we still don't have confirmation on. If the WG was leaking boost, that's a HUGE problem! *If* the plugs were fouled, gapped improperly, the exhaust was capped up, or the MAF tables weren't dialed in, etc., etc., then obviously the power was going to be down.

I'm still willing to offer any help I can with it. But flaming me and bitching about it doesn't get us anywhere.

I say, let's wipe the slate clean, start a new beginning now, and figure everything out. No hard feelings....fair enough?
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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Noyzee
I never said the kit wouldnt do it. But it wont do it in 3 days. it takes time and some extra work. Thatss what i mean, it aint no bolt on header, it is lots of custom stuff!
And like i said it looks like don is willing to help, just looks like people started out a bit off. It will work out for him, i know it will. I know i went threw it and still do.
but when its good, its GOOD!!
thats my gravy ticket LOL! A FI system thats ready in three days , I would be filthy rich
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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Rob Raymer
Correct. This wasn't our first rodeo even with Shawn's car. Ed Wright did the tuning and we spent two days at his shop tuning it. TWO DAYS. That's from 7am-5pm EACH DAY. And Ed HAD done turbo LS1's before! We've spent literally weeks and over 100 dyno pulls dialing the Formula in. And anyone should expect that within a couple of hours Transdamit would make 500rwhp??? Possible....but not likely.

I'm positive that Don has the ability to tune it, and given the opportunity, I'm sure he'll get it tuned. There were obviously a lot of potential problems with the install that we still don't have confirmation on. If the WG was leaking boost, that's a HUGE problem! *If* the plugs were fouled, gapped improperly, the exhaust was capped up, or the MAF tables weren't dialed in, etc., etc., then obviously the power was going to be down.

I'm still willing to offer any help I can with it. But flaming me and bitching about it doesn't get us anywhere.

I say, let's wipe the slate clean, start a new beginning now, and figure everything out. No hard feelings....fair enough?
I dont think anyones pointing fingers anymore, Greg will get it done and all will be good.
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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 12:24 PM
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well i saw #s that i wasnt happy with and i was mad at that and a lot of other things and i pointed fingers at rob and i shouldnt have so rob im saying sorry puplicly and to don if i pissed you off in anyway im sorry to you to also,dons tuning is super and robs kit is also amazing,now with that said i will wipe the slate clean and start over,i sent you a pm the other day rob if you got it tell me what you think and let me know i wanted to get the boost controller anyway,also i have a buddy that wants some stuff for his vette im going to have him talk to you ill let you know when he is going to call
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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 01:15 PM
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Greg, how is the setup coming along. Did you have a chance to let Don get his hands dirty with the spark plugs and tune without that questionable BOV?

We're all waiting to see that thing up and running
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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 01:18 PM
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thats better, i feel the love now.
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm horse power gooooodddd!
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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 04:23 PM
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The funny thing is that the tune was spot on for the boost drop we were getting.A/F was great and throttle response was excellent.
And yes Greg I did get pissed,but I'm over it now and ready to finish your car as stated above.I get very defensive about my work since I take it so personnal.
Now lets boost this biatch!!!!!!!!
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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 06:08 PM
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i just read all he threads again and jammaster j thank you for your "words of wisdom" it was the only part of this thing that accually made me feel better,i dont know if everyone one else sees it but maybe its just me cause i was the one saying it but i do belive i was attacked i never said anything bad about anyone even when i said somthing abot the kit not being up to par and i was just asking advice,and the bov is not installers error ,wich is still not working i dont know if its the right one or its deffective,but hey maybe i am just an ******* that doesnt know anything and everyone else sees it different,but hey after all that and i get the car done i dont think ill ever say anything on ls1 tech ever again then ill get my back surgury and start mountain bike racing again
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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Transdamit
and the bov is not installers error ,wich is still not working i dont know if its the right one or its deffective,but hey maybe i am just an ******* that doesnt know anything and everyone else sees it different
No one is saying you installed the BOV incorrectly. Don thought it would be easier get your hawk running and up to par so you could enjoy the ride and once that is done; the BOV could be dealth with seprately (shipped back, mailed out for repair or whatever). Wouldn't you rather have the car running and deal with that petty crap at a later time?

No one thinks your an ***, just a little head strong on what you want; no harm in that.

BTW, driving a turbo LS1 is alot more fun that mountain biking Don will get that thing set up in no time at all, the cars gonna be a beast
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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 06:54 PM
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i watched greg do alot of this instal, i know you guys have worked things out...but the problem i still see is, 1. why did you ever sell this kit if it has bugs that need to be worked out, greg has recomeded me to you many times, but im still haveing a hard time understading why you didnt work out most of these bugs when you were desiging the kit, you have a retuable company most compines out there speand years desiging things to make them work right the First time, i think you need to take a look into the kit real well, right now im a little skepital about it, i understand fi is very touchy but ive seen the clams about this kit and i understand greg being a little angry, with the money he spent on this kit i think he got riped off for the amount of hp he is getting right now i understand there are still problems with it, but i think the price is totaly unreasonable for the gains, im not bashing any one here im just haveing a hard time justifing the price for the amount of work that has to be done by the purchaser
im glad that you dont sell it as a kit any more i think that, that should have been done from day one, its your kit u desigined you should instal it, you have to rember we all dont think like you, and sometimes cant figiure things out as quick as you so some times get agitated very quickly and become very angry, don greg speaks of you like a god, he recomends you to every one he talks to,thats just my opinion im glad things are worked out now good luck with the kit greg
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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 06:57 PM
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we got mail yay yay
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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 07:06 PM
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You guy's should just drop this before it goes all out again..I reread it and my blood pressure went up again...
Truthfully,this should of never been posted.There were bug's to be worked out which is normal with any car with a power adder..The kit itself is actually very good(don't like the BOV though)..You can not be in a rush with a setup like this to go out and show everyone your power.As Brad stated before,he has worked out alot of bugs in his system to get it were it is..
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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 07:11 PM
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Transam1313, I don't think it was very prudent for you to post that.

As explained above, we are working with a *possible* defective BOV and used spark plugs. Explain in detail if I am wrong but that does not exactly constitute as a "faulty kit with unexplained bugs".

Greg’s kit WILL make power (and it seems like quite a bit) but how can you expect him to make money when the kit isn't even tuned?????? Hell, even without the kit tuned, dropping boost and not even running at 20% boost (2 pounds) he is making 371 pounds of torque @ 3,000 rpm. The looks like it will perform, let’s make our conclusions when the kit is tuned and running at full boost.
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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 07:27 PM
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I didn`t see anything about what your running for a clutch. Kinda stupid question but if your clutch is sliping the smallest bit, since a turbo is load dependent it could cause you to lose boost. Just a thought.
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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 07:50 PM
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that was just my opinion on this whole subject, i belive i am intitled to it
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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 08:18 PM
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did you see the dyno sheets joe because if you didnt you are dam good at math,wahooo hes my little mathamatician
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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 08:19 PM
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i didnt think all the posts were that bad
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