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Old 04-20-2011, 11:12 PM
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Default Bet you have never seen this before : CNG Powered Callaway SS Bi-Fuel!!

Introducing the worlds first Bi-Fuel Powered CNG Callaway Camaro...and Yes....its FI...and YES it RUNS!! Well!

I had mentioned some time back there was a project in the works...well here it is.

Sorry for the crappy cell phone pics...but here you go!
I will get more later in a nicer setting. This was just before a show this past couple of days in Fort Worth at the (DUG) Developing Unconventional Gas show.

Hoping to get some Dyno time in soon and will post results.


















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hmmmmm...no comments after 16 reads...I find that odd. Figured this would get lots of response.
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Maybe a more in-depth explanation of the natural gas setup instead of pictures might help. Certain people are phucking ignorant on natural gas setups like Mr.MartyStone
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LOL...

Well its fairly straightforward. it has a seperate fuel rail on each side with 8 total CNG injectors, when the car starts up , its on Petrol, after temp or specified time is reached it switches over to CNG. 7 gallons of CNG in this case, there is ways of doing more but this was what they opted for. its a pressurized 3600lb system that is so much safer than Gasoline its crazy. There is a lot to explain on it, but I will be more than happy to elaborate or get you someone that does it for a living.

There is a lot of really good info on www.cngnow.com if you are seriously interested in learning more or if you would like I can get you in contact with the installer. They are great guys and the largest CNG installer in the U.S.
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Sweet mother of god, can i have it?
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3600psi? Is it regulated down as it is fed to the motor? Seems like there'd be weird blowby issues.
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Yes sir, goes through 2 regulators with Flex lines and when going into the injectors its about 42psi if memory serves me correct.
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That's sick. I've been thinking about trying lpg injection and a turbo before. That car is really nice! LPG has a lot of octane and cooling effect. CNG probably works simmilar? Can you fill it at your house?
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Yes you can fill at your house with a Phill Unit. There is a cost, but again the offset of price per gallon pays for it VERY quickly.
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Looks great.

How come I hadn't come across CNG as I'm doing a research project on alternative energies.

Can you explain how you converted it to be bi-fueled?
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Hey! Great work man!

Im glad you got this out, i would love your to post dyno graphs of both, running both fuels!

So yeah! Great job man!
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this is nice what are the power numbers and any more detail on the setup?
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surprised no one has asked but how much HP/TQ?

edit: ^^^beat me to it lol
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Originally posted by LOHRTBT
Hoping to get some Dyno time in soon and will post results.
LOL...Patience guys lol
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Originally Posted by LOHRTBT
Originally posted by LOHRTBT

LOL...Patience guys lol
sorry all i saw was pics and no numbers besides the cng pressure
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thats really freaking cool!!! i would like to learn more about cng for sure
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www.cngnow.com is a great resource guys...

I am a bit high on meds right now due to my tonsils getting yanked so I cant explain the best right now lol
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Very clean install. In for more details. Like, what happens if it runs out of CNG? Is the transition gradual or instant from fuel to fuel? Can you tell while you are driving? Is it CNG at WOT or basically all the time until it runs out? Is there a separate system for the CNG control or is it one computer doing everything? If so, what computer?
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Originally Posted by 98Z28CobraKiller
Very clean install. In for more details. Like, what happens if it runs out of CNG? Is the transition gradual or instant from fuel to fuel? Can you tell while you are driving? Is it CNG at WOT or basically all the time until it runs out?
I dont know about WOT, but i can tell you with our vehicles that we run, some factory conversions, FROM CHEVY, and some that we send to be converted, or some we did our self.

they switch instantly, and you never know it until you look down at your gas gauge and see its on regular gas. or the indicator light is lit up for GAS.
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That is very cool, and great packaging! I have been waiting to see some more performance Natural Gas applications. How much weight did the system add to the car?


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