UPDATED!!*DYNO NUMBERS* Comparison of Comp Turbo Billet 88mm CT6X-88 & GT91 Garrett!!
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UPDATED!!*DYNO NUMBERS* Comparison of Comp Turbo Billet 88mm CT6X-88 & GT91 Garrett!!
So i just bit the bullet on a new Comp Turbo Triple Ball Bearing, Billet wheel, billet center section, 88mm T6 Turbo!
I went down to their manufacturing facility in San Dimas, CA. It feels really good to be buying american They had half a dozen CNC machines making wheels and center sections right in front of me. Joe, the owner, is great to deal with and knows a ton about turbos!
I recently had my GT91 freshened up with new bearings, and the shop forgot to put loctite on the compressor wheel nut, so the wheel came loose and damaged the wheel
This new turbo is good for 1530 hp, flows 161 lbs/min and should spool significantly better than my GT91 now I can finally get some back to back dyno results with one of these!
Here are the specs on the Comp Turbo:
Compressor: 88mm ind 118mm exd
Turbine: Straight cut 94mm 94mm ind 94mm exd.
Im also excited to save some weight off the front end, The billet aluminum center section is supposed to save a good chunk of weight.
This is in comparison to my current GT91 turbine wheel of 94mm ind and 82mm exd. This should help my back pressure come down a little bit. I was still at 2:1 back pressure with the old turbo.
What do you guys think about me stepping down from a 91mm to a better flowing 88mm compressor wheel? They said the reduced mass of a smaller wheel, along with the ball bearings, will help it spool much better and still make more power than my last turbo!
Heres some side by side pics!:
This is from Comp's site:
Why choose Triplex Ceramic™ CT3B Technology
The Triplex Ceramic Ceramic ***** are also 60% lighter than steel ***** and operate with lower vibration levels. Since centrifugal forces are significantly reduced at high speeds, their service life is two to five times longer. There is less heat build-up in the ceramic bearings during operation and they can reach operational speed up to 50% higher than steel ball bearings. These favorable mechanical characteristics of the ceramic ball bearings make them an ideal choice for turbocharger bearing systems that run at high operating speeds and are subjected to high exhaust gas temperatures.
I went down to their manufacturing facility in San Dimas, CA. It feels really good to be buying american They had half a dozen CNC machines making wheels and center sections right in front of me. Joe, the owner, is great to deal with and knows a ton about turbos!
I recently had my GT91 freshened up with new bearings, and the shop forgot to put loctite on the compressor wheel nut, so the wheel came loose and damaged the wheel
This new turbo is good for 1530 hp, flows 161 lbs/min and should spool significantly better than my GT91 now I can finally get some back to back dyno results with one of these!
Here are the specs on the Comp Turbo:
Compressor: 88mm ind 118mm exd
Turbine: Straight cut 94mm 94mm ind 94mm exd.
Im also excited to save some weight off the front end, The billet aluminum center section is supposed to save a good chunk of weight.
This is in comparison to my current GT91 turbine wheel of 94mm ind and 82mm exd. This should help my back pressure come down a little bit. I was still at 2:1 back pressure with the old turbo.
What do you guys think about me stepping down from a 91mm to a better flowing 88mm compressor wheel? They said the reduced mass of a smaller wheel, along with the ball bearings, will help it spool much better and still make more power than my last turbo!
Heres some side by side pics!:
This is from Comp's site:
Why choose Triplex Ceramic™ CT3B Technology
- Light weight turbo.
- Rebuildable.
- Rapid rotor acceleration.
- 99% mechanical efficiency.
- Engineered to outperform competition.
- Manufactured with aluminum components.
- Bearing service life is two to five times longer.
- 1 Year limited warranty.
The Triplex Ceramic Ceramic ***** are also 60% lighter than steel ***** and operate with lower vibration levels. Since centrifugal forces are significantly reduced at high speeds, their service life is two to five times longer. There is less heat build-up in the ceramic bearings during operation and they can reach operational speed up to 50% higher than steel ball bearings. These favorable mechanical characteristics of the ceramic ball bearings make them an ideal choice for turbocharger bearing systems that run at high operating speeds and are subjected to high exhaust gas temperatures.
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The phenomena that is forced inductions GT is winding down if you ask me... Mine lasted 5 street miles1.5 Dyno pulls before its compressor nut backed off and damaged the wheel/housing. I'm intersted in yourvresults and pictures!
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They use a reverse rotation thread on the shaft to prevent this.
I could start another whole thread about all my issues with FI messing up my orders, shipping incorrectly, never answering the phone etc.
I had to file a fraud claim on my credit card on my last order with them....
But enough about them! All is good now that I have something better on the way!
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Very interested to hear how you go. I'm trying to decide what turbo to run and was leaning towards a FI unit...
Does anyone know how much the comp turbo 88mm is?
Edit, found it
CT5X8894 Oil Only Triplex Ceramic .90/1.00/1.10/1.25/1.32 5"V-Band $3,019.00 - boostlab.com
Does anyone know how much the comp turbo 88mm is?
Edit, found it
CT5X8894 Oil Only Triplex Ceramic .90/1.00/1.10/1.25/1.32 5"V-Band $3,019.00 - boostlab.com
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Been there, and still there with the trouble, but I think it should be alot quicker spooling! Dont know much about 88s, but its time to learn, good luck!
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Nice! I'm in for results! I have the comp 8079 oil-less CT5-Z. Depending on how your 88 performs, i may return it and get the same turbo. I've been thinking about back pressure issues coming up and i'm kinda leaning towards taking the turbo back while it's still new and trading it for a CT5-X with the larger turbine to help with back pressure. My conscience literally keeps telling me take the turbo back...take the turbo back...so i think that's what i may end up doing regardless...lol! Goodluck bro with the new turbo!
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Nice! I'm in for results! I have the comp 8079 oil-less CT5-Z. Depending on how your 88 performs, i may return it and get the same turbo. I've been thinking about back pressure issues coming up and i'm kinda leaning towards taking the turbo back while it's still new and trading it for a CT5-X with the larger turbine to help with back pressure. My conscience literally keeps telling me take the turbo back...take the turbo back...so i think that's what i may end up doing regardless...lol! Goodluck bro with the new turbo!
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Compressor = 80mm, turbine = 79mm (100 trim). Sprayed01 made decent power with his 370...almost 800rwhp with pump gas and meth. Talon77 made almost 800rwhp with a 5.3 and e85. Both of these guys used The CT43 8079 with stock heads...except Talon77's was the oil-less version. I'm looking to make a little more than them though I have goals of 900+ rwhp (hopefully 1000rwhp) with a max of 20psi on 91 and meth or e85. Hopefully my better heads, intake and 3 more pounds of boost will get me where i want to be. My turbo is the CT5-Z 8079 oil-less which basically has the same specs as theirs but with a CT5 cover EDIT: also has higher flowing billet compressor. You can see the difference in the compressor designs in the pics. Justin @Comp, said my turbo flows 133lbs /min and rated to near 1300hp.
Heres's mine CT5Z 8079
Here's the CT43 8079
Heres's mine CT5Z 8079
Here's the CT43 8079
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Nice! Not to thread jack KILLER-LS1 but since they not done with your turbo i'd call and see if you have the new Extended tip compressor wheel. I just got mine. I'd advice you to get it lol. Tell'm Dwight sent you lol.
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Compressor = 80mm, turbine = 79mm (100 trim). Sprayed01 made decent power with his 370...almost 800rwhp with pump gas and meth. Talon77 made almost 800rwhp with a 5.3 and e85. Both of these guys used The CT43 8079 with stock heads...except Talon77's was the oil-less version. I'm looking to make a little more than them though I have goals of 900+ rwhp (hopefully 1000rwhp) with a max of 20psi on 91 and meth or e85. Hopefully my better heads, intake and 3 more pounds of boost will get me where i want to be. My turbo is the CT5-Z 8079 oil-less which basically has the same specs as theirs but with a CT5 cover EDIT: also has higher flowing billet compressor. You can see the difference in the compressor designs in the pics. Justin @Comp, said my turbo flows 133lbs /min and rated to near 1300hp.
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I don't know about 1000whp. I love my 80/79 ct43 but on a larger ls motor I think you would have pretty high bp at that level. Mine does almost 800whp at 17psi through stock heads and intake but power starts to die in the mid 5k rpm range. I think its almost out of turbo. I'm also through a 9 inch and locked auto so maybe a m6 10 bolt could show a higher number.
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I don't know about 1000whp. I love my 80/79 ct43 but on a larger ls motor I think you would have pretty high bp at that level. Mine does almost 800whp at 17psi through stock heads and intake but power starts to die in the mid 5k rpm range. I think its almost out of turbo. I'm also through a 9 inch and locked auto so maybe a m6 10 bolt could show a higher number.
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Skinnies, you are probably right. I think at the end of the day the precision and my comp are about the same. Comp is a very new company compared to precision,mine is about 18 months old. They are In their early stages and come out with new designs all the time. Great customer service too.