Going to go with an STS turbo setup, I need a little advice
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I bought these heads and cam before I decided to go Turbo, and plan on installing at least the heads.
I need to know if the CAM is turbo friendly?
I plan on running at 5 psi and able to dial it up to 10 psi once in awhile at the most.
From everything I have been reading, you guys are saying stay with the stock CAM. I would like to go a little more aggresive (not looking for the bang for the buck) Just wanted some feedback.
ARE stage 2 LS1 heads milled 30 thousands (perimeter Bolt)
Thunder Racing TR 224/224 .563/.563 112 LSA
My bottom end is stock.
Any plus or minuses?
Can I get a more aggresive cam?
I would also like to pass emissions (hopefully the STS will get a CARB EO) .
Anyone know if any of the sponsors here sell STS setups?
Thanks in advance.
Paul
I need to know if the CAM is turbo friendly?
I plan on running at 5 psi and able to dial it up to 10 psi once in awhile at the most.
From everything I have been reading, you guys are saying stay with the stock CAM. I would like to go a little more aggresive (not looking for the bang for the buck) Just wanted some feedback.
ARE stage 2 LS1 heads milled 30 thousands (perimeter Bolt)
Thunder Racing TR 224/224 .563/.563 112 LSA
My bottom end is stock.
Any plus or minuses?
Can I get a more aggresive cam?
I would also like to pass emissions (hopefully the STS will get a CARB EO) .
Anyone know if any of the sponsors here sell STS setups?
Thanks in advance.
Paul
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Originally Posted by Wildman
I bought these heads and cam before I decided to go Turbo, and plan on installing at least the heads.
I need to know if the CAM is turbo friendly?
I plan on running at 5 psi and able to dial it up to 10 psi once in awhile at the most.
From everything I have been reading, you guys are saying stay with the stock CAM. I would like to go a little more aggresive (not looking for the bang for the buck) Just wanted some feedback.
ARE stage 2 LS1 heads milled 30 thousands (perimeter Bolt)
Thunder Racing TR 224/224 .563/.563 112 LSA
My bottom end is stock.
Any plus or minuses?
Can I get a more aggresive cam?
I would also like to pass emissions (hopefully the STS will get a CARB EO) .
Anyone know if any of the sponsors here sell STS setups?
Thanks in advance.
Paul
I need to know if the CAM is turbo friendly?
I plan on running at 5 psi and able to dial it up to 10 psi once in awhile at the most.
From everything I have been reading, you guys are saying stay with the stock CAM. I would like to go a little more aggresive (not looking for the bang for the buck) Just wanted some feedback.
ARE stage 2 LS1 heads milled 30 thousands (perimeter Bolt)
Thunder Racing TR 224/224 .563/.563 112 LSA
My bottom end is stock.
Any plus or minuses?
Can I get a more aggresive cam?
I would also like to pass emissions (hopefully the STS will get a CARB EO) .
Anyone know if any of the sponsors here sell STS setups?
Thanks in advance.
Paul
As far as a plus---I will say that I took a ride in their LS1 project car and WOW, what a ride that was!
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Just make sure and size that turbo right. Mine is too small and hurt me on the top end. Dyno sheet link is in sig.
Rick knows which turbo will work well on the LS1 cars to minimize lag yet still make good power. hopefully when I get my bigger turbo my #s will look a lil better. Stock HP on the trucks is 240 so not too bad still.
Rick knows which turbo will work well on the LS1 cars to minimize lag yet still make good power. hopefully when I get my bigger turbo my #s will look a lil better. Stock HP on the trucks is 240 so not too bad still.
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why do capitalize the word cam everytime you write it?
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To see who would be the first person to ask me.
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cam cam cam... Doesn't look right to me
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Originally Posted by F8LPONY
Just make sure and size that turbo right. Mine is too small and hurt me on the top end. Dyno sheet link is in sig.
Rick knows which turbo will work well on the LS1 cars to minimize lag yet still make good power. hopefully when I get my bigger turbo my #s will look a lil better. Stock HP on the trucks is 240 so not too bad still.
Rick knows which turbo will work well on the LS1 cars to minimize lag yet still make good power. hopefully when I get my bigger turbo my #s will look a lil better. Stock HP on the trucks is 240 so not too bad still.
Nope, actually the opposite. I am selling my heads and cam and getting turbo friendly one's.
Thanks for the offer. I have been reading your posts with intrest and it sounds like you are having fun with your setup.
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Check us out, we are an authorized STS dealer. Email for info...
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I think you will have some good fun with the STS keep us posted on your results.
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Decided to sell the the heads and cam, glad I hadn't installed them yet.
This will be my weekend warrior car and I don't plan on abusing it, (well not too much
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I am looking to run 5psi at normal driving and no more than 10psi with the "flick of the switch".
Here is my proposed setup:
Stock bottom (run it til she blows)
STS Turbo Kit (either the turbo that comes with the LS-1 kit or one size larger)
Alchy Kit
STS Electronic Dual Stage
PP LQ9 heads (need help deciding with the 59cc or the 72cc chamber?)
---With a turbo, does it matter as much having the heads ported/polished?
Z06 Cam (I heard that this a real Turbo friendly cam and for the price)
Fuel Injectors (need help on what # to get)
Fuel Pump (again need help on what flow)
NGK TR6-k plugs
I have the GM Head Gaskets, Will I need to buy the Cometics or will these do?
I have an A4, so will I need the BOV or not?
I have learned a lot in the last week or so and I am still on the learning curve.
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I want to do this right the first time, so feel free to criticize.
Thanks guys,
Paul
This will be my weekend warrior car and I don't plan on abusing it, (well not too much
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I am looking to run 5psi at normal driving and no more than 10psi with the "flick of the switch".
Here is my proposed setup:
Stock bottom (run it til she blows)
STS Turbo Kit (either the turbo that comes with the LS-1 kit or one size larger)
Alchy Kit
STS Electronic Dual Stage
PP LQ9 heads (need help deciding with the 59cc or the 72cc chamber?)
---With a turbo, does it matter as much having the heads ported/polished?
Z06 Cam (I heard that this a real Turbo friendly cam and for the price)
Fuel Injectors (need help on what # to get)
Fuel Pump (again need help on what flow)
NGK TR6-k plugs
I have the GM Head Gaskets, Will I need to buy the Cometics or will these do?
I have an A4, so will I need the BOV or not?
I have learned a lot in the last week or so and I am still on the learning curve.
FLAME ON
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I want to do this right the first time, so feel free to criticize.
Thanks guys,
Paul
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72cc chamber no question. Other stuff looks good. Walbro 340 (Racetronix) setup would be a good idea as well as 42# injectors. (SVO)
With the water alky and that fuel system you'll be able to support a ton of power.
With the water alky and that fuel system you'll be able to support a ton of power.
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oh by the way this cam is the best for trucks if you need something a little more specific to the fbody cars then call cammotions.com or check the site out they custom grind for real cheap!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Chris ARE 360
72cc chamber no question. Other stuff looks good. Walbro 340 (Racetronix) setup would be a good idea as well as 42# injectors. (SVO)
With the water alky and that fuel system you'll be able to support a ton of power.
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With the water alky and that fuel system you'll be able to support a ton of power.
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I have the GM Head Gaskets, Will I need to buy the Cometics or will these do?
I have an A4, so will I need the BOV or not?
Do I need to go that big on the injectors? I want to be safe but 42# seems high to me. But what do I know.
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Thanks again guys.
I will starting purchasing stuff next week. A fool and his money...
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Originally Posted by Wildman
How about these questions:
I have the GM Head Gaskets, Will I need to buy the Cometics or will these do?
I have an A4, so will I need the BOV or not?
Do I need to go that big on the injectors? I want to be safe but 42# seems high to me. But what do I know.
Thanks again guys.
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I have the GM Head Gaskets, Will I need to buy the Cometics or will these do?
I have an A4, so will I need the BOV or not?
Do I need to go that big on the injectors? I want to be safe but 42# seems high to me. But what do I know.
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Thanks again guys.
I will starting purchasing stuff next week. A fool and his money...
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Go with the biggest injectors your can afford. the 42# injectors should work good for you choice. As far as the BOV STS should be able to answer that for you.
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42lb injectors should be just about right for your setup depending on what power levels you want to hit. GM head gaskets will be *ok* for what your doing but I'd highly recommend upgrading to the cometics with a set of ARP head studs for extra insurance, this way you won't have to replace them in the near future when you decide to kick the boost up. I'm building a kinda sorta similar setup but going a little more agressive on everything and plan to run 15-20lb's of boost (or however much the turbo I'm using will support). You will definately need a methanol injection kit for running over 5lb's on the stock shortblock depending on what the CC's of the heads are. Good luck.
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If you go with the methanol kit, you will not need the 42# inj. You can tune for 5psi and kick on the meth at 10-12psi with the same tune. However, the SVO 42lb (green top) injectors work excellent on our cars and are a good median size inj. They are not too big and are easy to tune, no idling issues.
Mine is A4 as well. Although I have a BOV, you do not need one. It is not a must. The turbo manufacturer says it is not necessary and that the blades are built to handle not having one. Esp on A4 BOV is def something you can always get down the road.
Any questions you have, feel free to email us.
Mine is A4 as well. Although I have a BOV, you do not need one. It is not a must. The turbo manufacturer says it is not necessary and that the blades are built to handle not having one. Esp on A4 BOV is def something you can always get down the road.
Any questions you have, feel free to email us.
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Originally Posted by SSnakekiller
If you go with the methanol kit, you will not need the 42# inj. You can tune for 5psi and kick on the meth at 10-12psi with the same tune. However, the SVO 42lb (green top) injectors work excellent on our cars and are a good median size inj. They are not too big and are easy to tune, no idling issues.
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Originally Posted by Chris ARE 360
I still think the 42#ers are a good idea. If he runs out of water/meth he could put in a program to run straight gas and the injectors will support the boost level (with timing changes of course) Preferrably race gas mix
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I'm all for the big injectors. They should be easy to tune for driveability. I have the 8.1L Marine 43lb injectors in mine and tuning was a snap.
I would look into fabing in an intercooler in the future. The system can be ran without it but IMO it's extra insurance AND it will make the meth work that much better and give you more power. Kinda like running on a cool winter day all the time
I would look into fabing in an intercooler in the future. The system can be ran without it but IMO it's extra insurance AND it will make the meth work that much better and give you more power. Kinda like running on a cool winter day all the time
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Originally Posted by F8LPONY
I'm all for the big injectors. They should be easy to tune for driveability. I have the 8.1L Marine 43lb injectors in mine and tuning was a snap.
I would look into fabing in an intercooler in the future. The system can be ran without it but IMO it's extra insurance AND it will make the meth work that much better and give you more power. Kinda like running on a cool winter day all the time![Happy](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_stretch.gif)
I would look into fabing in an intercooler in the future. The system can be ran without it but IMO it's extra insurance AND it will make the meth work that much better and give you more power. Kinda like running on a cool winter day all the time
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I found the 42# SVO (we are talking about the Ford ones right?) < showing my ignorance.
I found them for around $450 (gag), and I am not sure if they are matched.
Ohwell, if I want to play with the big goys, I have to pay with big boy money I guess.
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